Please ID this FW Puffer!
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Pufferpunk
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I'm pretty sure the ones with the blue tail are male lorteti.
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Yes, I purchased him yesterday. I went to another LFS and showed them a picture on my phone and they thought it might be an Irrubesco. I hope I didn't pay $60 for a Irrubesco lol. So you all think its a C. borneensis? what gender?
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Oh! And thank you all for the replies!
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Corvus
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See here:Pufferpunk wrote:I'm pretty sure the ones with the blue tail are male lorteti.
http://www.puffer.gr.jp/monograph/Libra ... sis/08.jpg
Shows all C. borneensis. On the lower right side you can clearly see a bluish tail. The scientific descriptions of the caudal fins of males of both species sound very similar. C. borneensis is supposed to have more grey and C. lorteti more black, but I don't see the difference personally.
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Corvus
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And for comparison purposes some pics of male C. lorteti:
http://www.fishlore.com/aquariummagazin ... er-lg2.jpg
http://www.fishlore.com/aquariummagazin ... fer-lg.jpg
http://www.amazonas-magazin.de/uploads/ ... m1.jpg.jpg
http://www.amazonas-magazin.de/uploads/ ... 11.jpg.jpg
http://akvaforum.no/images/forum/13436_ ... 2742_1.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s96/ ... /114-1.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5656/img9558ah5.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5949/p1030100qm7.jpg
http://www.lode.biz/pufferpics/lorteti/Lorteti_12m.jpg
http://www.fishlore.com/aquariummagazin ... er-lg2.jpg
http://www.fishlore.com/aquariummagazin ... fer-lg.jpg
http://www.amazonas-magazin.de/uploads/ ... m1.jpg.jpg
http://www.amazonas-magazin.de/uploads/ ... 11.jpg.jpg
http://akvaforum.no/images/forum/13436_ ... 2742_1.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s96/ ... /114-1.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5656/img9558ah5.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5949/p1030100qm7.jpg
http://www.lode.biz/pufferpics/lorteti/Lorteti_12m.jpg
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Re: Please ID this FW Puffer!
Here's my male lorteti:
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Pufferpunk
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I think this group of fish are the hardest to distinguish. That one looks just like what I though was a male lorteti! Maybe we're both wrong, Troender?
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Corvus
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I agree with Troender's ID of her male C. lorteti.
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Pufferpunk
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But it looks just like mine!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Corvus
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The ornament on top of the head looks different.
Compare http://www.fishlore.com/aquariummagazin ... fer-lg.jpg
to http://www.puffer.gr.jp/monograph/Libra ... sis/08.jpg
The C. lorteti seem to have an additional light bar dividing the dark spot. Something the supposed C. borneensis lack. This feature is also shown in the species descriptions by Hui.
Compare http://www.fishlore.com/aquariummagazin ... fer-lg.jpg
to http://www.puffer.gr.jp/monograph/Libra ... sis/08.jpg
The C. lorteti seem to have an additional light bar dividing the dark spot. Something the supposed C. borneensis lack. This feature is also shown in the species descriptions by Hui.
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Troender
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What differs a borneensis from a lorteti?
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I believe Corvus just described the differences.
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I think they differ by these most easy obverable characters:
A) ornament on top of the head
B) body color: C. lorteti more grey with light grey markings, C. borneensis more brown to green with yellow markings. Just open some of the pics linked to above and I think you'll get the idea.
C) Stature: Adult C. borneensis males seem to be more massive, stout and with a larger head than their C. lorteti counterparts.
Others also have suggested C. lorteti and C. irrubesco have a red anal fin, while the one of C. borneensis is colorless (I cannot confirm this. Neither for C. borneensis, nor for C. irrubeso this seems to be always the case). Other characters are found in the aqualog. Most are not easy to spot.
A) ornament on top of the head
B) body color: C. lorteti more grey with light grey markings, C. borneensis more brown to green with yellow markings. Just open some of the pics linked to above and I think you'll get the idea.
C) Stature: Adult C. borneensis males seem to be more massive, stout and with a larger head than their C. lorteti counterparts.
Others also have suggested C. lorteti and C. irrubesco have a red anal fin, while the one of C. borneensis is colorless (I cannot confirm this. Neither for C. borneensis, nor for C. irrubeso this seems to be always the case). Other characters are found in the aqualog. Most are not easy to spot.
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I love it!
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Should I be feeding my Borneensis snails? If so, how many and how often?