Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
My puffer in QT has these discolorations (see image.) Is this some sort of disease? Has anyone seen this before? He's got a healthy appetite and I've have him in there for about 6 weeks. I'm really worried.
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sevenyearnight
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Re: Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
First, please answer the questions above the post in red.
And also, how long have you seen the white spotting? (I'm assuming this is the discoloration you are speaking of)
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Sorry your puffer is having this issue, but it's good he is in quarantine.
And also, how long have you seen the white spotting? (I'm assuming this is the discoloration you are speaking of)
Sorry your puffer is having this issue, but it's good he is in quarantine.
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Re: Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
That is velvet. Quick acting external parasite.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/gene ... pagesid=83
http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/gene ... pagesid=83
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
Wow, you think Marine Velvet? He's had this for awhile (weeks) and I'd think he'd be dead by now or on death's door.
There his stay at hotel qt tank, he's been active and not exibiting any of the velevet symptoms. I flashed a light at night indirectly at the puffer and didn't see anything abnormal on the fishe's skin surface... just the micro-bumps of the puffers skin.
Could it be a bacterial infection?
If it is definately velvet, I want to try and knock it out. Upon research, the only sure-fire was is copper of some sort, but as you know the application can be problematic with scaleless fish like puffers.
Let me know your thoughts.
There his stay at hotel qt tank, he's been active and not exibiting any of the velevet symptoms. I flashed a light at night indirectly at the puffer and didn't see anything abnormal on the fishe's skin surface... just the micro-bumps of the puffers skin.
Could it be a bacterial infection?
If it is definately velvet, I want to try and knock it out. Upon research, the only sure-fire was is copper of some sort, but as you know the application can be problematic with scaleless fish like puffers.
Let me know your thoughts.
Re: Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
I read your post re: your Burrfish and Panda Puffer and velvet. If I treat with Seachem Cupramine would I just use the normal dosage... or would i tone it down because they are scaleless?
Re: Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
Well, I started Seachem Cupramine treatment yesterday. He seems very healthy, but I think the cost of in-action far outweighs the cost of action. I was (still a little am) nervous about treating w/ copper; but I'm being cautious and testing (with Seachem Copper kit.)
Right now I did the initial dose of Cupramine based on the bottle's instructions. I plan on doing a 15 gallon (50 percent) water change before the next dose; any recommendations? With the 50% water change the 2nd dose will have to be more than the bottle recommends to account for the dilution... any advice on calculation?
Thanks in advance Kelly.
Barry
Right now I did the initial dose of Cupramine based on the bottle's instructions. I plan on doing a 15 gallon (50 percent) water change before the next dose; any recommendations? With the 50% water change the 2nd dose will have to be more than the bottle recommends to account for the dilution... any advice on calculation?
Thanks in advance Kelly.
Barry
Re: Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
Bump - Anyone?
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Re: Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
none of the questions in red listed at the top of this forum have been addressed.
if you follow me, you avoid stepping in the crap that I just did...
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sevenyearnight
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Re: Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
I would love to be more help, but marine diseases are not my specialty, and I'm not familiar with treating puffers with a copper based product. I've always read that they cannot tolerate it.
And I know this is a quarantine tank, but the questions above the post in red are important none-the-less, if you could answer them that would be super.
Someone with more experience in this area should be able to help you soon.
And I know this is a quarantine tank, but the questions above the post in red are important none-the-less, if you could answer them that would be super.
Someone with more experience in this area should be able to help you soon.
Re: Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
Thanks All - I was able to reach Puffer Queen on the Marine Deport board. Looks to be normal puffer skin pigmentation.
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sevenyearnight
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Re: Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
That's good to hear. It's hard to tell with the golden color morph of this species since it has so many color variations, from full yellow, to yellow with some black and white spotting, to yellow with very little black with white spotting. I'm glad that has turned out to be the case.
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Pufferpunk
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Re: Golden Puffer Discoloration - Help
Glad to hear. i'm on a dive vacation with very little access to internet.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"