Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

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however she hates water changes so this is somewhat normal.... but there is a large snail in there so that I can tell if she starts to feel better :D
she loves snails,

we are not ok yet however I think the snail will tell me how we are doing
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Many, many, many water changes--80% every other day--while vacuuming the substrate well, to remove any free-swimming cysts.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Once the treatment is going she will calm down and act as normal, eating etc. The initial shock or wtf as i like to call it will soon be over
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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OK Thx

My phosphates are 1.0 ??? more water changes?
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Oh just checked on what raises the phosphate and the list included Salt :reface:

The list had all kinds of things that are not going on in my tank however salt was the last one
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Don't worry about phosphates, but continue with water changes as specified with the heat and salt treatment.
Phosphates even in high levels aren't harmful to fish, under anything I've read. It's a necessity in their diet and is added to their food.
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Sevenyearnight, I could not see where it was harmful to fish, however can be harmful to plants :shock: and it does make alge grow like crazy

thank you for all your help- she is out of the sand and sitting by me, looking at me, like to say thank you Mom.....

how slow do you raise the tank heat? with a water change it dropped and now I have added worm water with the cold and we are at 78 I think you know the first line in the top yellow ??? we have a ways to go to get up to 82....
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Let your heater warm it up.


Next time try to match the temps before adding the water. Even just by touch
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Yes, adding cooler water can slow the process a bit, get an extra thermometer if you don't have one.
Be careful on raising the temps, watch her closely.
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0.5 phosphate is ok in a heavily planted tank, a lot of people claim to have high levels and no algae :/
I had to start dosing phosphate in my planted tanks because I guess between the not so many fish doots and low to no phosphate in my tap, the phosphate was 0 and the plants were showing deficiencies.
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I did warm the water to the touch, however we were not at 82 to start with..... I have a huge jabot jagar it I can drop another one in however I am afraid it will raise the temp too quick.

She is back under the sand now ???? and has not bothered the snail yet :? I will have to take a pic of her laying by the snail it will be the one and only time this will prob. happen not so funny
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Yeah, don't raise the temperature too fast.
Check the water temp with a thermometer next time to be on the safe side.
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Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

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Try live earthworms as a great food temptation. Lots of read meat protein in them.
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