Labored Breathing

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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Labored Breathing

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He's very sick & won't act better, until the spots are gone. I would only add the Melafix after every water change. You'll be doing 80% every other day, while vacuuming the substrate for free-swimming parasites.
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Re: Labored Breathing

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Hi everyone, almost a week now. I put Malafix (1 tsp per 10 gal) in every day. I change the water 70% every other day, and when I change the water I put 27 tablespoons of marine salt in the tank (of course I wait until it is dissolved). As of yesterday, he is eating his snails again, back to being yellow. Tummy isn't completely white yet. But he is coming back to the winow of the tank to greet me again. Thank you Pufferpunk and everyone for saving my little guy. He is doing much better. Still see a smidgin of white dots on tail and tummy, but otherwise no other ich. I vaccuum everytime I clean the water. I have also been cleaning the media, wasn't sure if I had to, but did it anyway.
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Yay!
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Malafix says to put in tank for full seven days. As for the water changes.......the article pufferpunk sent me said to change every other day for a month. That's a lot......do I eally do that??????

Since I have been adding Marine Salt is that "brackish"??
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You have to continue treating for ich for 2 weeks after the last spot is gone. The Melafix is to heal the damage done by the parasities to the skin/eyes/gills, so you could stop using that about a week after the last spot. I'd only add it on the day you do the WC.
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Great job getting him better!!! You have to continue treating for ich for 2 weeks after the last spot is gone. The Melafix is to heal the damage done by the parasities to the skin/eyes/gills, so you could stop using that about a week after the last spot. I'd only add it on the day you do the WC.
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Re: Labored Breathing

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Hi everyone,

What a long haul it has been but well worth it. My puffer, "PufferPunk" is doing wonderful and is in a "Full" saltwater tank.!!! It's been a job. I wanted to tell everyone what a wonderful wealth of information you all have been! I couldn't have done it without you. My tank looks beautiful and the GSP is loving it.

On another note, in a SW Tank, why do I keep getting brown algea on the sand? Every two weeks I am cleaning the tank on the glass and sand from this algea. Is this just the nature of the beast in SW Tanks?

What other types of fish can I put with a puffer??? This is a 45 gallon tank.
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Re: Labored Breathing

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So happy the hear all is well

Is it algae or diatoms?
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Diatoms are algae. But it sounds like diatoms none the less. Welcome back!
It's part of the new set up. Over time it will pass.
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What are you using for a water source? Diatoms need silica in order to form their shells.
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oh I think algae as a plant, and since diatoms have shells I dont think of that as a plant.
But learn something new everyday
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Brown diatoms are a unicelullar algae/phytoplankton, their cell wall is made of silica.
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oooohhhhhhh
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.
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Re: Labored Breathing

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Ok, first thanks again for helping keep my little one alive. Secondly, my water source is tab water. I use the Prime. I read up on what you called it and it says, if I understand it, it's a tuype of Algae. It says to not give it a lot of light or purchase a protein skimmer or leave it alone and it will eventually balance out. Am I right?

P.S. Nobody said what other saltwater fish can be with a puffer.
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Re: Labored Breathing

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Your fish has a really cool name!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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