Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Re: Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
Puffer ate a whole jumbo shrimp tonight! His eyes are getting much clearer.
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las
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Re: Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
Would you recommend keeping a refugium with a DSB or an algae lit refugium with saltwater puffers?RTR wrote:Will either of the fish take nori or any of the other dried seaweeds? Or take prawn/ghost shrimp which have been fed well with such foods? And/or do you vitamin-soak thawed foods before feeding? I worry about vitamins with any eye problems. Non of the above should do any harm and could help.
I do agree that it is not easy to get 0 nitrate with messy eaters and large fish in SW (or FW) but it can be done. I wish I had already been well along in testing plenum tanks when I had the T. mbu. Anything would have helped.
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Re: Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
Why not both? That's what I have. It's plumbed in next to the tank.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
Thanks PP- I am running the same system as you i guess.Pufferpunk wrote:Why not both? That's what I have. It's plumbed in next to the tank.
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Re: Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
Sump under tank:
Fuge next to sump/tank:
Fuge next to sump/tank:
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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goldielocke76
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Re: Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
Pufferpunk wrote:Sump under tank:
Fuge next to sump/tank:
I feel like I still have so much to learn....here I thought I was learning tons, and the last couple of posts you guys just posted....foreign language LOL
/overwhelming
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10g: PZ the Pee Wee (DP), Ghost shrimp, Otos x3
36g: Luau the F8, Zebra nerites x8, sometimes a herd of ghost shrimp for food
60g: Perches the starry blenny, 1 watchman goby Snaps the l.c. hermit, 2 emerald crabs, 1 red crab, 2 turbos, 7 asteas, 2 nerites, 2 clown gobies and 2 firefish gobies (upgrading to a 90 gallon reef)
RIP Yoshi, you are dearly missed <3
5.5g: Red Cherry Shrimp and Rams
10g: PZ the Pee Wee (DP), Ghost shrimp, Otos x3
36g: Luau the F8, Zebra nerites x8, sometimes a herd of ghost shrimp for food
60g: Perches the starry blenny, 1 watchman goby Snaps the l.c. hermit, 2 emerald crabs, 1 red crab, 2 turbos, 7 asteas, 2 nerites, 2 clown gobies and 2 firefish gobies (upgrading to a 90 gallon reef)
RIP Yoshi, you are dearly missed <3
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Re: Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
consider the sump a mechanical garbage can where wastes are deposited and removed. A fuge (refugium) is usually there to hold aquatic plant life and other living organisms that help clean and oxygenate the water.
There is no reason why this can't all be in one system but people prefer to have the dirty work hidden away from the display tank.
There is no reason why this can't all be in one system but people prefer to have the dirty work hidden away from the display tank.
if you follow me, you avoid stepping in the crap that I just did...
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goldielocke76
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Re: Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
J-P wrote:consider the sump a mechanical garbage can where wastes are deposited and removed. A fuge (refugium) is usually there to hold aquatic plant life and other living organisms that help clean and oxygenate the water.
There is no reason why this can't all be in one system but people prefer to have the dirty work hidden away from the display tank.
Thanks J-P! I am going to have to do some more reading..sounds really interesting, and one day, eventually, I want to get a ginormous fish tank LoL. Gotta start learning now. =)
5.5g: Pond snails
5.5g: Red Cherry Shrimp and Rams
10g: PZ the Pee Wee (DP), Ghost shrimp, Otos x3
36g: Luau the F8, Zebra nerites x8, sometimes a herd of ghost shrimp for food
60g: Perches the starry blenny, 1 watchman goby Snaps the l.c. hermit, 2 emerald crabs, 1 red crab, 2 turbos, 7 asteas, 2 nerites, 2 clown gobies and 2 firefish gobies (upgrading to a 90 gallon reef)
RIP Yoshi, you are dearly missed <3
5.5g: Red Cherry Shrimp and Rams
10g: PZ the Pee Wee (DP), Ghost shrimp, Otos x3
36g: Luau the F8, Zebra nerites x8, sometimes a herd of ghost shrimp for food
60g: Perches the starry blenny, 1 watchman goby Snaps the l.c. hermit, 2 emerald crabs, 1 red crab, 2 turbos, 7 asteas, 2 nerites, 2 clown gobies and 2 firefish gobies (upgrading to a 90 gallon reef)
RIP Yoshi, you are dearly missed <3
Re: Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
UPDATE - puffer's eyes are much clearer, he's eating frozen jumbo shrimp again.... my guess is eyesight is about 80% back to normal. He can definitely see us thru the glass - gets very excited especially when my ten year old walks in the room. Still has not taken a shrimp hand held at the top of the tank like he used to. We have to use feeding tongs to get the shrimp near his face. I'm encourgaed that he'll continue to improve and be back to 100% in another month or so.
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Re: Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
that is good news!!
it is a shame that sickness and injury is so sudden and the healing process takes such time.
it is a shame that sickness and injury is so sudden and the healing process takes such time.
if you follow me, you avoid stepping in the crap that I just did...
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Re: Porcupine Puffer with White Film over Eyes
Glad your porc is feeling better
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.