Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Oh no! Sick fish?! Come here and see if someone can help!
Forum rules
Read this before posting!!

Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
User avatar
sevenyearnight
Former Staff Member
Posts: 1894
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:41 am
Gender: Female
My Puffers: T. nigroviridis
Balki Bartokomous
Location (country): USA
Location: South Carolina

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by sevenyearnight »

Soak the snail, shell and all. Give him the snail as he eats it normally.
Image
User avatar
xrayjeeper83
Mbu Puffer
Posts: 4167
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 9:31 pm
Gender: Male
My Puffers: Fahaka named Bloat
Abei named Huey
GSP named Bacon
Location (country): USA
Location: Orange Park, FL

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by xrayjeeper83 »

the meds will most likely kill the snail though
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.
User avatar
sevenyearnight
Former Staff Member
Posts: 1894
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:41 am
Gender: Female
My Puffers: T. nigroviridis
Balki Bartokomous
Location (country): USA
Location: South Carolina

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by sevenyearnight »

I don't think that matters, it's meant to be eaten. :P
You need to feed him what he will eat, exactly as he eats it, because if he doesn't normally eat something, he's definitely not going to eat it medicated. It really doesn't take that much medicine, but it must get inside of him.
Image
User avatar
xrayjeeper83
Mbu Puffer
Posts: 4167
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 9:31 pm
Gender: Male
My Puffers: Fahaka named Bloat
Abei named Huey
GSP named Bacon
Location (country): USA
Location: Orange Park, FL

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by xrayjeeper83 »

LOL I know, it just was weird to me the first time I tossed em in med water. They came out pretty much nothing, just a shell cause they had shriveled
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.
jjj5311
Figure 8 Puffer
Posts: 142
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:14 pm
Gender: Male
My Puffers: 2 DPs
Green Spotted Puffer
Location (country): USA
Location: Milwuakee, WI

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by jjj5311 »

i heard the shell dissolves sometimes in meds... is this true?
User avatar
xrayjeeper83
Mbu Puffer
Posts: 4167
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 9:31 pm
Gender: Male
My Puffers: Fahaka named Bloat
Abei named Huey
GSP named Bacon
Location (country): USA
Location: Orange Park, FL

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by xrayjeeper83 »

yes they can
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.
jjj5311
Figure 8 Puffer
Posts: 142
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:14 pm
Gender: Male
My Puffers: 2 DPs
Green Spotted Puffer
Location (country): USA
Location: Milwuakee, WI

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by jjj5311 »

xrayjeeper83 wrote:yes they can
thanks xray i was just wondering
User avatar
sevenyearnight
Former Staff Member
Posts: 1894
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:41 am
Gender: Female
My Puffers: T. nigroviridis
Balki Bartokomous
Location (country): USA
Location: South Carolina

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by sevenyearnight »

I just hope he eats it :/
Image
User avatar
Reaperpilot2014
Fahaka Puffer
Posts: 638
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:38 am
Gender: Male
My Puffers: 150g - 1 Fahaka Puffer "Ramses" (The Pharaoh)
55g - 3 SA Puffers "Larry, Curly, * Moe"
30g - 1 GSP "Demon"
15g - 1 C. Irrubesco "Raoden"
29g - 1 Figure 8 - Looking for good name ideas...
29g - Ramshorn, Marmorkreb, Cherry & Ghost Shrimp Breeder Tank
10 wonderful years with puffers!
Location (country): USA
Location: Utah

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by Reaperpilot2014 »

The snail's body can dissolve as well. It happens fairly quickly for some reason. Another thing I have done is taken a live snail, gotten it to start "walking" on partially dissolved antibiotic, and then fed him straight away to the puffer with the meds stuck on its foot.
It's a crayfish! It's a snail! It's a... ah who cares?
Nom nom nom!...

Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
User avatar
Salmon
Green Spotted Puffer
Posts: 270
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:54 pm
My Puffers: Albie (F8) soon to be rehomed
Milo and Millie (DPs)
Location (country): United States of America
Location: Ohio

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by Salmon »

I'll have to try that one reaper. That is ingenious.
Those who say money can't buy happiness don't know where to find puffers.
User avatar
sevenyearnight
Former Staff Member
Posts: 1894
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:41 am
Gender: Female
My Puffers: T. nigroviridis
Balki Bartokomous
Location (country): USA
Location: South Carolina

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by sevenyearnight »

Reaperpilot2014 wrote:The snail's body can dissolve as well. It happens fairly quickly for some reason. Another thing I have done is taken a live snail, gotten it to start "walking" on partially dissolved antibiotic, and then fed him straight away to the puffer with the meds stuck on its foot.
Bueno!
Image
User avatar
Salmon
Green Spotted Puffer
Posts: 270
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:54 pm
My Puffers: Albie (F8) soon to be rehomed
Milo and Millie (DPs)
Location (country): United States of America
Location: Ohio

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by Salmon »

I forgot to update lastnight, but this is what I did.
I took a handful of snails out of my snail tank, around 10 or so. I had a aquarium water and parasite tablet mixture ready. I took a snail in my hand and took a pipette and filled it with my mixture and squirted the crap out of the exposed part of snail, so it kind of dissolved, but still was alive and threw them in. He ate about 5 or 6 of the snails. My other puffer attacked them as well. So hopefully that got some medicine in his system.
Those who say money can't buy happiness don't know where to find puffers.
User avatar
sevenyearnight
Former Staff Member
Posts: 1894
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:41 am
Gender: Female
My Puffers: T. nigroviridis
Balki Bartokomous
Location (country): USA
Location: South Carolina

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by sevenyearnight »

Awesome, great idea!
Image
User avatar
DrKennethNoisewater
Green Spotted Puffer
Posts: 317
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:55 pm
My Puffers: Puffers:
2xGSP
Non Puffers:
3xPictus Catfish
1xBlack Ghost Knife
1xGolden Dojo Loach
1xHighfin Pleco
1xBoesemani Rainbow
4xHarlequin Rasboras
Location (country): under a bridge ontario, canada

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by DrKennethNoisewater »

how many times do you guys treat for IP's?? my puffers literally eat anything. i could probably just poor the jungle parasite guard in the tank and they would eat the meds. just wondering. cause yesterday i treated them. should i again today?
User avatar
sevenyearnight
Former Staff Member
Posts: 1894
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:41 am
Gender: Female
My Puffers: T. nigroviridis
Balki Bartokomous
Location (country): USA
Location: South Carolina

Re: Dwarf Puffers and IPs

Post by sevenyearnight »

Soak the food in a small amount of tank water and medicine. Don't add the medication to the water, the medicine needs to get inside out them. Treat for about a week or so.
Image
Post Reply