Puffer constipated?

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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Puffer constipated?

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The medication you want to get, as stated, metronidozal and praziquantel. Jungle makes a product in a tablet form , and there is another by Tetra in a tablet form. But there are others, some in powder. Break off a small piece, put food in a small bit of tank water, add pressed garlic or extract, and add the small piece of tablet. Allow it to soak for about 1/2 to 1 hour.
The garlic is to get them to eat it, if that medicine tastes anything like it smells, it would straight up be like eating a surlaW infused alka seltzer. They may not eat it if you soak it long.
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Re: Puffer constipated?

Post by Reaperpilot2014 »

I'm not sure I would soak food in the espom salt, but soak the antibiotic for sure. I'm actually doing that as I type for my new figure 8.
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Re: Puffer constipated?

Post by Reaperpilot2014 »

sevenyearnight wrote:The medication you want to get, as stated, metronidozal and praziquantel. Jungle makes a product in a tablet form , and there is another by Tetra in a tablet form. But there are others, some in powder. Break off a small piece, put food in a small bit of tank water, add pressed garlic or extract, and add the small piece of tablet. Allow it to soak for about 1/2 to 1 hour.
The garlic is to get them to eat it, if that medicine tastes anything like it smells, it would straight up be like eating a surlaW infused alka seltzer. They may not eat it if you soak it long.
+1. I really like the jungle tablets, but I just buy the ones I listed earlier now because they are cheaper in the long run, and are pharmaceutical grade. Supposedly the garlic also helps get rid of IPs, although there is no true research on this that I am aware of.
It's a crayfish! It's a snail! It's a... ah who cares?
Nom nom nom!...

Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
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Re: Puffer constipated?

Post by sevenyearnight »

I agree on the garlic. It does have some anti-fungal and antibiotic properties, and I've also read claims on anti-parasitic, but I would not trust it alone to fight off the squirmy surlaW eating bowel demons.
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Re: Puffer constipated?

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Reaperpilot2014 wrote:Oh, and epsom salt is one tablespoon for every 5 gallons of water.
This is for BW/SW fish & should be dosed at 1/2 the 1st day & then the 2nd half the next day. For FW, it is 1 tbsp/10g.
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Re: Puffer constipated?

Post by Mzkrista »

Ok thanks everyone. Going to do the diluted espom salts now and go to the Lfs that specializes in salt fish and see if they have those Meds. I have to go to work today but will try to post a picture later. You r very informative and I appreciate the knowledgeable advise!
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Re: Puffer constipated?

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Not to steal thunder from the OP, but I bought some of the tetra tablets today (sevenyearnight suggested I treat for IP a few days ago), and I'm wondering how long I should feed tablet-infused food to Lola?
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Re: Puffer constipated?

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Good question. I think it's a week.
What did the article say on duration?
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Re: Puffer constipated?

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Hmm, well for use with Fenbendazole i'm seeing 3 days a week for two weeks.. But Tetra doesn't have that. I accidentally bought pellets first and had to exchange em, that said 3 days a week for 4 weeks. Tetra says... up to three times per week. Article also says I might see results as early as next morning.
Guess it's a range, haha.
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Re: Puffer constipated?

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I'd go with 3 to 7 days.
Check the doodoos for color and consistency, and also watch for worms passing. If the doodoo is not white, yellowish mucus like, and no more worms are exiting, and tummy doesn't look pinched shortly after meals, you should be good.
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Re: Puffer constipated?

Post by ILoveLola »

Interesting. I'll have to keep a super close eye on her. I've never seen her poop. Super suuuper close eye on her.
thank you soo much :)
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