Puffer constipated?
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Mzkrista
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Puffer constipated?
Hi I know this is weird but If your puffers anus is open frequently does it mean they are constipated or too full? I read somewhere that is true, but not sure when it is a problem or what you do about it. Anyone know about this?
Thank you!
Thank you!
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Re: Puffer constipated?
Sometimes an open anus can be related to IP. I've never had a puffer be constipated before, but that's not to say it can't or hasn't happened to people. How full does he look? How's his coloring? If you have a current picture that might be helpful.
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Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
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Re: Puffer constipated?
Hes a GSP and Has beautiful color, bright white belly, bright green body and happily swimming about. He's acting normal and is eating but his anus seems to be open frequently. I will try to take a picture of him tomorrow. He is very round and looks very full. I didn't feed him today since he ate yesterday because he looks so full. How do you know if they have IP?
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Re: Puffer constipated?
asking a stupidish question but have you noticed any changes with the amount of poop you see?
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Re: Puffer constipated?
If you haven't seen poop for several days, then constipation may be an issue, although that can be caused by IP. If his poop is white, or you see white stringy things hanging from his anus on occasion can be signs of IP, but they usually cause the puffer to have a sunken in look as opposed to be healthy and full.
What are you feeding him? Dried, pellet, or flake foods can lead to blockage in puffers, and are an inappropriate diet anyway. Never hurts to ask.
You can try adding espom salt to the water to aid in bowel movement.
What are you feeding him? Dried, pellet, or flake foods can lead to blockage in puffers, and are an inappropriate diet anyway. Never hurts to ask.
You can try adding espom salt to the water to aid in bowel movement.
It's a crayfish! It's a snail! It's a... ah who cares?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
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Re: Puffer constipated?
Treat any new puffer for IP's, most if not all will have them.
Sounds like that would cause an opening anus, but I can't say for sure. But treat for IP's immediately.
Sounds like that would cause an opening anus, but I can't say for sure. But treat for IP's immediately.

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Re: Puffer constipated?
Every single puffer I've owned and treated for IPs passed them. That's saying something. Most puffers are wild caught so it's pretty much a given.
It's a crayfish! It's a snail! It's a... ah who cares?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
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Re: Puffer constipated?
I feed them snails, shrimp, mussels,clams, dried jumbo brine shrimp tried frozen peas but they don't care abt that.There poop is pinkish, never saw white stufflike you said. I have a 55 gallon tank should I give them espsom salt and how much? I'm a bit new to all this but what do you treat them with for ip? Thx!
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Re: Puffer constipated?
It sounds like you have a good diet, but I would throw the brine shrimp out.
I've used metronidazole successfully in the past. You can add it directly to the tank, but it is much more effective to soak their food in it. You can get something called "aquatic metronidazole" from an aquatic drug company on ebay for a decent price.
More on IPs here. library/hospital/internal-parasites-pre ... treatment/
I've used metronidazole successfully in the past. You can add it directly to the tank, but it is much more effective to soak their food in it. You can get something called "aquatic metronidazole" from an aquatic drug company on ebay for a decent price.
More on IPs here. library/hospital/internal-parasites-pre ... treatment/
Last edited by Reaperpilot2014 on Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
It's a crayfish! It's a snail! It's a... ah who cares?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
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Re: Puffer constipated?
Oh, and epsom salt is one tablespoon for every 5 gallons of water.
It's a crayfish! It's a snail! It's a... ah who cares?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
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15g - 1 C. Irrubesco "Raoden"
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Re: Puffer constipated?
I just thought I'd ask, but, you do have him in brackish or full marine, right? That makes the dose I told you correct, but also confirms that he isn't having problems from not having proper water conditions. While your at it, what are your water parameters? Everything up in red at the top is helpful.
It's a crayfish! It's a snail! It's a... ah who cares?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
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Re: Puffer constipated?
Ok I'll look it up, should I try epsom salt and how much should I give for a 55 gal tank and also how frequently do you give it? When do u know when to stop? They are in brackish w/ sand bottom. 120 gh, 120 kh, 7.0 ph,0 no2, 20 no3, 0 Amon. 10 sal 1.004 grav. Tank cycled brackish 3 weeks ago, previously freshwater. Used filter from other tank that was brackish that the gsp's came from along with the 1 from freshwater. 2 gsp's in 55 gal tank currently.
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Re: Puffer constipated?
Like I said above, 1 tablespoon per 5 gallons for brackish or marine water, so you're looking at 11 tablespoons, or a little less than 3/4 cup. It doesn't affect SG in any way, so that's not an issue. In all honesty I'm not sure how often to dose. I've never had to do it for any of my puffers, but my father has. I know that he dosed, waited 3 days, and then did a 75% water change, with a normal 50% water change at the end of the week. That was for BW and SW puffers. I don't remember any of the puffers having problems that lasted longer than that.
It's a crayfish! It's a snail! It's a... ah who cares?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
- Reaperpilot2014
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15g - 1 C. Irrubesco "Raoden"
29g - 1 Figure 8 - Looking for good name ideas...
29g - Ramshorn, Marmorkreb, Cherry & Ghost Shrimp Breeder Tank
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Re: Puffer constipated?
Just as an afterthought, it is probably best to dissolve the epsom salt before you add it. Since your nitrates are at 20, you could do it during a water change, and then follow the same schedule or water changes my dad used. His store specialized in BW and SW puffers, and he knew and knows his stuff since it was his Masters degree and career focus. I trust what I learned from him. 
It's a crayfish! It's a snail! It's a... ah who cares?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
Nom nom nom!...
Tank: 4 liter custom-shaped sphere
Contents: 1 Brainfish
Ph: 7.4
Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: ?
Problem: Cloudy/muddy water
Can you help me?
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Re: Puffer constipated?
Definitely dissolve anything you add to a tank, the change in TDS can throw the fish into osmotic shock.
I'd only treat their food, I'd add medication to the water if it were an external malady, but this medicine needs ro get directly inside them to kung pow the worms out.
I'd only treat their food, I'd add medication to the water if it were an external malady, but this medicine needs ro get directly inside them to kung pow the worms out.
