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Post by btsherrill77 »

This maybe a dumb? But.using the bubble option on a power head for a saltwater tank good or bad? I have a 240 gallon...8 feet by 2 by 2.....there are no covers on the two giant access points on the top....would my fish benefit from adding bubbles?
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Re: bubbles

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not sure about the fish.. but to you really want the salt spray / creep that goes along with it?
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Bubbles are not necessary for oxygenation in properly stocked and filtered tanks. Current is absolutely required beyond really, really low stocking levels.

I never use bubblers of any sort other than in small fry tanks, and even then never in salt water.
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RTR wrote:Bubbles are not necessary for oxygenation in properly stocked and filtered tanks. Current is absolutely required beyond really, really low stocking levels.

I never use bubblers of any sort other than in small fry tanks, and even then never in salt water.
Thanks for the info....just curious...
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Would a puffer play with the bubbles? I was thinking of things to put in the tank to keep him from getting bored, and they have a bubbler in the tank at the LFS that I am going to get mine from. I wasn't sure, but I thought I would ask....
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Re: bubbles

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Yes, most love playing in bubbles.
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I wonder why they like it? Do you think perhaps it's because it tickles them? :shock:
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Yes, many fish seen to enjoy playing in bubble streams, definitely including puffers. Anything that promotes activity cannot be all bad, but I do hate salt spray and mineral creep. I do try hard to provide multiple different current areas to compensate for not using bubblers.
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Pufferpunk wrote:Yes, most love playing in bubbles.
That's.why.I.asked....sometimes I turn on the bubble option and they all dig it...I.don't get much.salt creep....evaporation more so....but they seem to like it....didn't know.if it was.bad
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Re: bubbles

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My big boy loves bubbles. He just cant be gentle with the bubble block it gets battered
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RTR wrote:Yes, many fish seen to enjoy playing in bubble streams, definitely including puffers. Anything that promotes activity cannot be all bad, but I do hate salt spray and mineral creep. I do try hard to provide multiple different current areas to compensate for not using bubblers.

Is the creep going to be bad in BW? I have 0 experience with either of those two. Always been FW for me. That is why I am digging this whole puffer thing. I have never been on ANY type of forum before-- (so pardon my lack of knowledge of forum etiquette if I display anything. Not trying to be a troll, I just don't know any better as of yet) and here I am, on this awesome forum, meeting tons of great people with great advice, and learning tons! It's SO much better than what I had planned on. Thus far, making the decision to rehome the fish that came with the 20 gal (gourami, bala and an upside down catfish) has been a great one. :supercool:
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60g: Perches the starry blenny, 1 watchman goby Snaps the l.c. hermit, 2 emerald crabs, 1 red crab, 2 turbos, 7 asteas, 2 nerites, 2 clown gobies and 2 firefish gobies (upgrading to a 90 gallon reef)

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Re: bubbles

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Yeah, the creep still sucks even in light brackish. I have only one airstone in my F8 tank, and I have a glass versa-top and have to scrape it and wipe it down every week during the water change. I'm willing to do it because I don't have a monster-sized tank, but on your 240 gallon? No way -- the puffer(s) would have to find something else to play with besides bubbles!
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240 gal? I only have a 20 lol. I wish I could have something that big, but heck, that would be as big as my apartment LOL
5.5g: Pond snails
5.5g: Red Cherry Shrimp and Rams
10g: PZ the Pee Wee (DP), Ghost shrimp, Otos x3
36g: Luau the F8, Zebra nerites x8, sometimes a herd of ghost shrimp for food
60g: Perches the starry blenny, 1 watchman goby Snaps the l.c. hermit, 2 emerald crabs, 1 red crab, 2 turbos, 7 asteas, 2 nerites, 2 clown gobies and 2 firefish gobies (upgrading to a 90 gallon reef)

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I have replaced too many glass top every other year from bubble salt and glass etching. Don't forget that for about 20 years I ran dozens of BW F-8 tanks. They were set totally without bubbles and minimum splashing. That was the absolute end of bubbling in other than strictly FW, and that only in fry tanks and snail-only tanks.

I don't like the noise either, so bubbles exist only in the tank room, never in the living areas of the house.

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Re: bubbles

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goldielocke76 wrote:240 gal? I only have a 20 lol. I wish I could have something that big, but heck, that would be as big as my apartment LOL
Heh. I was confusing you with the OP -- he/she has a monster 240 gallon.
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