ID on a clownfish

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ID on a clownfish

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Can someone ID this clownfish this is?

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I think it's a tomato clown (I can't remember the scientific name)... I'll google it.

If that's what it is, they are pretty cool, but can get a decent size bigger than you're average ocellaris.
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The tomato clownfish, Amphiprion frenatus - is what I think it is. Final Answer.
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i would go with tomato as well. they are cool little fish! i saw a bunch at petco in a tank, and like 5 of them were trying to get in the same anenome, it was hilarious!
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Yes, I love the personality of clownfish! Frenatus is a good guess. But I've also got a suggestion on A. barberi from someone else. They both look very alike. Does anyone know how to see the difference?
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Just do remember that clownfish are not really nice little fish. They commonly are cute to beautiful, and have teeth like scalpels. My stainless steel chainmail gloves were purchased for working in clown tanks. IME, Tomatoes are among the top three finger shredders.

Unfortunately they are great fish and quite hardy. If you have two and an anemone, prepare for attack.
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RTR wrote:Just do remember that clownfish are not really nice little fish. They commonly are cute to beautiful, and have teeth like scalpels. My stainless steel chainmail gloves were purchased for working in clown tanks. IME, Tomatoes are among the top three finger shredders.

Unfortunately they are great fish and quite hardy. If you have two and an anemone, prepare for attack.
I agree 100%! I had one for a while, but traded him/her in for a pair of true perculas. As RTR stated, they have very sharp little teeth.
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True A. barberi have a very thin black margin around the white bar. This species was described in 2008 and is still often mixed up with A. frenatus. A. frenatus is probably what is shown above. Also see http://www.halichoeres.org/halichoeres/ ... 08a%29.pdf page 113.
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It looks like it has a very thin black stripe around the white. Do you have a pic of a true frenatus to compare (I don't trust the pics at Google image)?
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No prob: http://www.fishbase.de/Photos/PicturesS ... &TotRec=10

This looks like a A. barberi: http://www.aquariumdomain.com/images/fi ... rberi1.jpg

I can clearly see the black line on your pictures. I would not decribe it as very thin and don't think this is A. barberi.
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Thanks! :D Then it's a frenatus.
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Corvus wrote:No prob: http://www.fishbase.de/Photos/PicturesS ... &TotRec=10

This looks like a A. barberi: http://www.aquariumdomain.com/images/fi ... rberi1.jpg

I can clearly see the black line on your pictures. I would not decribe it as very thin and don't think this is A. barberi.

This is a great observation! So is the only differenc the little black band? How about size, habitat (host anemones?) etc. I am curious...
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Re: ID on a clownfish

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There are more differences, but this I think is the most easy one for us hobbyists when IDing a living specimen. See the linked paper by Allen et al. above for more detail on A. barberi (esp. geographic distribution on p. 111...), very interesting!
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