NEW TOBY!
- Purifire
- Figure 8 Puffer
- Posts: 188
- Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 3:13 am
- Gender: Male
- My Puffers: 2 Dwarf Puffers (C. Travancoricus) , 1 male 1 female.
Saddled Toby (C. Vallintini)
Have kept GSPs - Location (country): United States, Lompoc CA
Re: NEW TOBY!
She is VERY active with the low-lights on ( I usually turn off the coralife 50/50 and shine an indirect HE bulb near the tank for a "sunset" effect. ). My guess is that she is more of a dawn-dusk hunter maybe? A half hour or so of furious exploration of the tank ( much more than when the full lights were on ) and she settled in to the cave I arranged for her. ( Yay! An aquascaping green thumb, have I. ) She was chilling on the substrate with slow fin movements when I went full dark. Still worried about the "bugs" but she seems well adjusted and I'm not that worried that she didn't eat today... Again, any advice about my idea to treat my fish in the 10g QT and let the "reef" go thru a normal die-off would be GREAT.
Also... I'd rather not go HypOsaline, my results with stepping up or down salinity have been mixed... need a refractometer. So would copper based work best, or a quinine derivative?
Also... I'd rather not go HypOsaline, my results with stepping up or down salinity have been mixed... need a refractometer. So would copper based work best, or a quinine derivative?
29 Gallon Marine tank, with refugium, skimmer. Base rock, coral skeletons. Stock: Baby Ocellaurus Clown, young Saddled Toby, 3 Hermit crabs,one 2 inch Bristle Worm, hitch hiking starfish.
10g Biotope. 3 C. Travancoricus (Dwarf Puffer) Some Ghost shrimp, gravel/sand substrate, heavily planted with Swords and Java Moss.
10g LR Culture Tank. 10+ pounds fiji LR / base rock. Assorted hitch hiking inverts
Some FW tanks.
In My Experience, Fishkeeping is like Cooking. Five or ten basics will keep anyone from getting sick. But to be truly magnificent... You have to know the right Recipies.
10g Biotope. 3 C. Travancoricus (Dwarf Puffer) Some Ghost shrimp, gravel/sand substrate, heavily planted with Swords and Java Moss.
10g LR Culture Tank. 10+ pounds fiji LR / base rock. Assorted hitch hiking inverts
Some FW tanks.
In My Experience, Fishkeeping is like Cooking. Five or ten basics will keep anyone from getting sick. But to be truly magnificent... You have to know the right Recipies.
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sevenyearnight
Re: NEW TOBY!
Buy a barren 20 gallon for a hospital tank, the 10 is too small for a clown and full grown toby.
Hospital tanks don't need to be cycled since you'll have to do daily water changes and medicate anyway.
Hospital tanks don't need to be cycled since you'll have to do daily water changes and medicate anyway.
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sevenyearnight
Re: NEW TOBY!
In the future, make sure you always quarantine new fish. Initial inspection won't always reveal diseases, so it's best to be on the safe side. It's good practice to quarantine live rock too as it can harbor parasites and other unsavory goods.
Before you go with hypo salinity, it would be good to post some new pics of the affected areas, it might not be crypt, but something bacterial or who knows. Some fish don't handle hypo well, so it's better to know what you are working with so you pick the appropriate treatment. Either way, definitely always have an empty quarantine on hand for new arrivals and sick fish. That way you will always have something on hand for situations.
There are threads/articles on quarantine procedures if you search for them.
Before you go with hypo salinity, it would be good to post some new pics of the affected areas, it might not be crypt, but something bacterial or who knows. Some fish don't handle hypo well, so it's better to know what you are working with so you pick the appropriate treatment. Either way, definitely always have an empty quarantine on hand for new arrivals and sick fish. That way you will always have something on hand for situations.
There are threads/articles on quarantine procedures if you search for them.
- El Scorpio
- Fahaka Puffer
- Posts: 534
- Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:11 pm
- Gender: Male
- My Puffers: none, at the moment...
- Location (country): Louisville, KY.
Re: NEW TOBY!
It's a female. 
Purifire wrote:Here They are!! I thinks it's Female... but she is Keeling from time to time, do the girls DO that?
Let me know if I sexed her right.
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btsherrill77
- Puffer Fry
- Posts: 36
- Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:39 pm
- Location (country): davdison north carolina
Re: NEW TOBY!
nice fish...... i have the same... from what i gather you have a female... my is the same.... if it where a male it would have some stripes right by its eye... my looks exactly like that..... sorry about the ich though....but of all puffers that i have had with ich. tobeys are the strongest and i have never lost any to ich....Purifire wrote:Here They are!! I thinks it's Female... but she is Keeling from time to time, do the girls DO that?
Let me know if I sexed her right.
- Purifire
- Figure 8 Puffer
- Posts: 188
- Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 3:13 am
- Gender: Male
- My Puffers: 2 Dwarf Puffers (C. Travancoricus) , 1 male 1 female.
Saddled Toby (C. Vallintini)
Have kept GSPs - Location (country): United States, Lompoc CA
Re: NEW TOBY!
Thank you, Scorpio, for the verification about sexing, was fairly sure, no eye vidrigis showing up, or grey markings posterior to anal fin,etc etc. And I absolutely agree Sevenyear, I should be more careful. The fact that I haven't got this drilled thru my head already is to my discredit as a "scientific-ally minded aquarist". Trying to be positive about the whole situation.... At least there's only one time that you have to deal with a 6 week fallow "Reef" for the FIRST time...
See?
I'm trying to be optimistic.
Um... BTW these white things I'm seeing are perhaps larger that Crypt forms as reported, Possibly parasitic Pods... Don't have enough exp to say for sure but I noticed white "bugs" on the glass the day after I added her. We'll see s things develop guys and gals
wish me luck and AGAIN, THANKS in adv.
-Purifire
See?
I'm trying to be optimistic.
Um... BTW these white things I'm seeing are perhaps larger that Crypt forms as reported, Possibly parasitic Pods... Don't have enough exp to say for sure but I noticed white "bugs" on the glass the day after I added her. We'll see s things develop guys and gals
wish me luck and AGAIN, THANKS in adv.
-Purifire
29 Gallon Marine tank, with refugium, skimmer. Base rock, coral skeletons. Stock: Baby Ocellaurus Clown, young Saddled Toby, 3 Hermit crabs,one 2 inch Bristle Worm, hitch hiking starfish.
10g Biotope. 3 C. Travancoricus (Dwarf Puffer) Some Ghost shrimp, gravel/sand substrate, heavily planted with Swords and Java Moss.
10g LR Culture Tank. 10+ pounds fiji LR / base rock. Assorted hitch hiking inverts
Some FW tanks.
In My Experience, Fishkeeping is like Cooking. Five or ten basics will keep anyone from getting sick. But to be truly magnificent... You have to know the right Recipies.
10g Biotope. 3 C. Travancoricus (Dwarf Puffer) Some Ghost shrimp, gravel/sand substrate, heavily planted with Swords and Java Moss.
10g LR Culture Tank. 10+ pounds fiji LR / base rock. Assorted hitch hiking inverts
Some FW tanks.
In My Experience, Fishkeeping is like Cooking. Five or ten basics will keep anyone from getting sick. But to be truly magnificent... You have to know the right Recipies.
- El Scorpio
- Fahaka Puffer
- Posts: 534
- Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:11 pm
- Gender: Male
- My Puffers: none, at the moment...
- Location (country): Louisville, KY.
Re: NEW TOBY!
If you have live rock in the aquarium then the little white 'bugs' are probably just young pods. I had the exact same thing in my aquarium. My goby ended up eating them all, though.
- Pufferpunk
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Re: NEW TOBY!
I would wait--still don't think it's Crypt. Crypt looks just like ich: salt shakings on the fish. I have seen these white markings even on Filbert. No big deal. Keep the water clean & they will go away.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
- Purifire
- Figure 8 Puffer
- Posts: 188
- Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 3:13 am
- Gender: Male
- My Puffers: 2 Dwarf Puffers (C. Travancoricus) , 1 male 1 female.
Saddled Toby (C. Vallintini)
Have kept GSPs - Location (country): United States, Lompoc CA
Re: NEW TOBY!
Thanks PP! Yeah the fact that they're so big gave me pause so I'm just keeping up params and watching closely. Been having problems getting her to eat... tried oysters, squid, octopus, prawn, ghostshrimp, fiddler crab, hermit crab... She killed a ghost but didn't eat it.. WTF lol. As we speak she's picking at a huge redworm so thats good. I tried algae sheets and she didn't want that either. She DOES however pick over the LR pretty much all day. Pod hunting is my guess. Anyone know a good macro algae to try her on?
29 Gallon Marine tank, with refugium, skimmer. Base rock, coral skeletons. Stock: Baby Ocellaurus Clown, young Saddled Toby, 3 Hermit crabs,one 2 inch Bristle Worm, hitch hiking starfish.
10g Biotope. 3 C. Travancoricus (Dwarf Puffer) Some Ghost shrimp, gravel/sand substrate, heavily planted with Swords and Java Moss.
10g LR Culture Tank. 10+ pounds fiji LR / base rock. Assorted hitch hiking inverts
Some FW tanks.
In My Experience, Fishkeeping is like Cooking. Five or ten basics will keep anyone from getting sick. But to be truly magnificent... You have to know the right Recipies.
10g Biotope. 3 C. Travancoricus (Dwarf Puffer) Some Ghost shrimp, gravel/sand substrate, heavily planted with Swords and Java Moss.
10g LR Culture Tank. 10+ pounds fiji LR / base rock. Assorted hitch hiking inverts
Some FW tanks.
In My Experience, Fishkeeping is like Cooking. Five or ten basics will keep anyone from getting sick. But to be truly magnificent... You have to know the right Recipies.
- El Scorpio
- Fahaka Puffer
- Posts: 534
- Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:11 pm
- Gender: Male
- My Puffers: none, at the moment...
- Location (country): Louisville, KY.
Re: NEW TOBY!
Camille absolutely LOVES mussels, maybe you should try some? She likes to kill ghost shrimp too but doesn't really eat them. She'll rip a ghost shrimp to pieces then just leave it there until my goby comes along and eats the shrimp. Even still, it satiates her natural predatory desire to hunt something down and kill it, it's good for her beak and helps keep my goby fed, so I'll throw some ghost shrimp in there every now and then. Camille never did go for algae sheets or macroalgaes, although she will from time to time graze on the very small patch of hair algae I allow to grow in the aquarium (it's her veggie garden.) Tobies are very active puffers and will constantly be hunting the live rock for pods or other crustaceans - Camille does the same thing when she's not taking her daily 3 hour nap.
- Purifire
- Figure 8 Puffer
- Posts: 188
- Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 3:13 am
- Gender: Male
- My Puffers: 2 Dwarf Puffers (C. Travancoricus) , 1 male 1 female.
Saddled Toby (C. Vallintini)
Have kept GSPs - Location (country): United States, Lompoc CA
Re: NEW TOBY!
lol thanks Scorpio
29 Gallon Marine tank, with refugium, skimmer. Base rock, coral skeletons. Stock: Baby Ocellaurus Clown, young Saddled Toby, 3 Hermit crabs,one 2 inch Bristle Worm, hitch hiking starfish.
10g Biotope. 3 C. Travancoricus (Dwarf Puffer) Some Ghost shrimp, gravel/sand substrate, heavily planted with Swords and Java Moss.
10g LR Culture Tank. 10+ pounds fiji LR / base rock. Assorted hitch hiking inverts
Some FW tanks.
In My Experience, Fishkeeping is like Cooking. Five or ten basics will keep anyone from getting sick. But to be truly magnificent... You have to know the right Recipies.
10g Biotope. 3 C. Travancoricus (Dwarf Puffer) Some Ghost shrimp, gravel/sand substrate, heavily planted with Swords and Java Moss.
10g LR Culture Tank. 10+ pounds fiji LR / base rock. Assorted hitch hiking inverts
Some FW tanks.
In My Experience, Fishkeeping is like Cooking. Five or ten basics will keep anyone from getting sick. But to be truly magnificent... You have to know the right Recipies.
- Purifire
- Figure 8 Puffer
- Posts: 188
- Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 3:13 am
- Gender: Male
- My Puffers: 2 Dwarf Puffers (C. Travancoricus) , 1 male 1 female.
Saddled Toby (C. Vallintini)
Have kept GSPs - Location (country): United States, Lompoc CA
Re: NEW TOBY!
I decided on a name for her. Aphroditie.
29 Gallon Marine tank, with refugium, skimmer. Base rock, coral skeletons. Stock: Baby Ocellaurus Clown, young Saddled Toby, 3 Hermit crabs,one 2 inch Bristle Worm, hitch hiking starfish.
10g Biotope. 3 C. Travancoricus (Dwarf Puffer) Some Ghost shrimp, gravel/sand substrate, heavily planted with Swords and Java Moss.
10g LR Culture Tank. 10+ pounds fiji LR / base rock. Assorted hitch hiking inverts
Some FW tanks.
In My Experience, Fishkeeping is like Cooking. Five or ten basics will keep anyone from getting sick. But to be truly magnificent... You have to know the right Recipies.
10g Biotope. 3 C. Travancoricus (Dwarf Puffer) Some Ghost shrimp, gravel/sand substrate, heavily planted with Swords and Java Moss.
10g LR Culture Tank. 10+ pounds fiji LR / base rock. Assorted hitch hiking inverts
Some FW tanks.
In My Experience, Fishkeeping is like Cooking. Five or ten basics will keep anyone from getting sick. But to be truly magnificent... You have to know the right Recipies.
- Pufferpunk
- Queen Admin
- Posts: 32979
- Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Puffers I have kept:
T lineatus
T miurus
A modestus
T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
C lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Greenville, SC
- Contact:
Re: NEW TOBY!
Perfect!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"