GSP rescue

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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Valentine
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Re: GSP rescue

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Ok, I went to my local aquarium.
The guy there said all those water changes may actually be the root of the problem, and actually bad for the fish. So I don't know what to think!
He actually swapped my puffer for one of his, saying he'll look after it. A nice fat happy one. If this one gets ill like the last one then I'm obviously not cut out to look after them because I'm doing something wrong.
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What!!!!! Is he thick waterchanges are rarely bad
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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That fish store has no idea what they're talking about. Discus breeders do 200% WC daily om their tanks.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Water changes are only bad if they're done wrong. The water has to be dechlorinated and free of other toxins, and it must be the same temperature and pH and hardness as the water in the tank.

Otherwise, water changes are GOOD GOOD GOOD. The idea that they are not is a myth that needs to get busted.
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LilGreenPuffer wrote:Water changes are only bad if they're done wrong. The water has to be dechlorinated and free of other toxins, and it must be the same temperature and pH and hardness as the water in the tank.

Otherwise, water changes are GOOD GOOD GOOD. The idea that they are not is a myth that needs to get busted.
Maybe we should call Mythbusters :shock:
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IKR???
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."

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Re: GSP rescue

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I'm continuing with the water changes, trying my best. But now there's a new symptom; there's a long white trail of... something coming from his buttocks. It's been there since last night. Any ideas?
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Here is the trail. It's quite long (about 3-4 inches)
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White stringy poo generally means internal parasites.
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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What Bertie said, IPs.
Nice tank btw
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Yup IP's here is a great artical from our library on treatment.

library/hospital/internal-parasites-pre ... treatment/
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Re: GSP rescue

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Right, my local aquarium doesn't stock any internal parasite medication so I'll look elsewhere.
Can anyone recommend any good brand in particular?
The good news is that he's eating finally.
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Try your vet for pig dewormer. Tell him it's for your fish.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Got some deworming tablets. Can anyone let me know the kind of dosage I should be mixing in?
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I believe you soak their food. Which brand of meds is it?
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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