PH=7.5
Ammonia=.14ppm
Nitrate/ Nitrates= 0
Salinity= 1.010 SG
30 Gallon tank all by himself except one tiny albino catfish
Bloodworms Once A Day, 3 Gallons every 2 days, Ammonia Killer.
Added 2 tblsp's to get salinity right
Tank has been running 3 years with GSP in it for 9 weeks, Undergravel filter and protein skimmer
Puffer On The Bottom????
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
could the UGF be causing the ammonia?
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
I'm not entirely sure but I will look online to see if it can.
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TJPuffer
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
That would be a no for what the people say online. They say it helps control the ammonia and nitrate level
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
You should not show any ammonia I would do large waterchanges as it seems the tank is not cycled. How did you cycle this tank? Oh and what is ammonia killer? If it's a chemical discontinue use. I would also consider a canister filter on something with more grunt/ media space for bacteria
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
it is an added filtration system IF properly maintained, but more often than not it just traps stuff that will pollute the water :/
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TJPuffer
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
I have had this tank up and running for about 3 years like I said and I check the levels every now and then when i didn't have a puffer and it had no problems. Is there anything else that could be causing ammonia to "inhabit my tank", and not to question you bertie 83, but why are chemical ammonia killers bad?
Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
Your tank may very well have been cycled but when adding the puffer the extra bioload could have crashed it. Most chemicals advertized to kill off ammonia ect. are just a waste of money. At this point water changes are your best bet.
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
How big is this tank? No way 2 tbsp of salt would get the SG up to 1.010 in a tank large enough to house a GSP.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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bertie 83
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
Chemicals advertised to keep perfect parameters just don't work I laughed when I read an easybalance bottle and it said no waterchanges for upto 6 months wtf lol. I tested these before and don't really help
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TJPuffer
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
Yeah that's pretty funny. Okay, so what would you recommend for the ammonia, just water changes?
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
Lots of WC. You can also ad Tetra's Safestart to the filter. Don't let the store sell you anything else though, the rest is garbage.
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
okay thank you for all your help. Greatly appreciated
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bertie 83
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Re: Puffer On The Bottom????
+1 to pp keep up the w/c and I would personally losethe ugf and replacewith a canister filter. Keep us posted
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly