I am just concerned because either now she sits on the bottom, or she goes to the top of the water level, or she sits on the intake of the filter.
Just am really worried
Labored Breathing
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Labored Breathing
I'd start changing the water a little more frequently. 25% twice a day may be in order or a continuous water change. Forget the hydrometer. If there is no marine salt it is useless. You can continue the Epsom salt treatment but only add enough to what you take out.
Reading back through the posts... PP's signature is the mantra .. water changes, water changes, water changes....
Don't add anything or take anything away from the tank except water. If you use a dechlor product, use it and have stock for the next 2 weeks at least. No instant cycle products for now. We're too late in the game for that.
Reading back through the posts... PP's signature is the mantra .. water changes, water changes, water changes....
Don't add anything or take anything away from the tank except water. If you use a dechlor product, use it and have stock for the next 2 weeks at least. No instant cycle products for now. We're too late in the game for that.
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sevenyearnight
Re: Labored Breathing
That bag of sand is really just a bag of mess. It's marketed to instantally cycle a marine/ full salt water tank, but it just has dead bacteria which will probably just give you an ammonia bloom. Don't worry about taking out the sand now, but it is very important that you keep up on multiple water changes, and don't skimp on the Prime.
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Re: Labored Breathing
She is sitting on the bottom of the tank right now. The other is swimming around. How often can I change the water?
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sevenyearnight
Re: Labored Breathing
Uh... I'd like to say twice a day, but I don't know in your case what would be best. Someone will know though.
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Re: Labored Breathing
at least twice a day.... smaller more frequent water changes... continuous if you can, but that may not be an option for you.
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Re: Labored Breathing
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Re: Labored Breathing
Now they are both on the bottom of the tank with their fins going to town but not moving.
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Re: Labored Breathing
did you do a water change?
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Re: Labored Breathing
This morning at 11:00AM I did a water change and then added back in the Epsome Salt
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Re: Labored Breathing
while waiting for PP take a water test and to another water change.
What is happening IMO, is your tank is going through a cycle right now. That cycle will take time to level off, so in the mean time you WILL have to change that water a couple times if not a few times a day...
What is happening IMO, is your tank is going through a cycle right now. That cycle will take time to level off, so in the mean time you WILL have to change that water a couple times if not a few times a day...
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Re: Labored Breathing
SHe is just so puffed and evertime she goes by the intake for the filter she gets sucked in to the intake screen and I have to move her. I will do aother 25% change and add epsom salt
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Re: Labored Breathing
I just woner how stressed this is makin them. I put the log back in so they can go inside and rest
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Re: Labored Breathing
They immediately went inside. The one not doing so well was the first one in
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sevenyearnight
Re: Labored Breathing
Make sure they always have a cave to hide in, what's stressful is ammonia and nitrite poisoning, so be sure to keep fresh clean water coming in, and double up on the Prime (according to the directions)