My fahaka has ich!!!!
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Srkoe
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My fahaka has ich!!!!
Just went to feed the guppy tank and noticed they have ich. I told my son and he says look mom Ares has spots too!!! Sure enough...he does. I've had the guppies for about 6 weeks now with no sign of ich. I've been feeding a few to my congo and I decided to give Ares one last week. I started salt treatment on Ares. I'm waiting for p-nut to unbury to get a good look at her...I'm probably just gonna treat anyway. If you all remember several weeks back I lost my SAP's to ich after intense salt treatment. I wad to watch them slowly die over a period of about a week...it really tore me up. If I lose ARES and P-Nut I don't know what I'll do. If Over the next few days Ares looks worse I want to try possible different forms of treatment. What other meds are safe and might work? I want to go ahead and get them ordered so I will have them on hand. It might seem I'm jumping the gun but I am really scared. Please help me.
Last edited by Srkoe on Fri May 20, 2011 4:50 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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sevenyearnight
Re: My gala has ich!!!!
I just used kordon herbal ich attack on my newly acquired odessa barbs and flag fish.
I set the temperature to 79-80°, dosed the recommended ammount for a 1.5 - 2X dose treatment, so for 75 gallons I dosed 13 or so teaspoons twice a day. I did this and after about 3 to 4 days, the ich was not visible, it did not infect any current residents, and the spots have not returned.
I did not use any salt because it's a planted tank and I have plecos, I did not raise the temperature higher than 80° because the barbs are kind of sensitive to heat.
It smells bad and tints the water brown. It does not require water changes, just do them as normal.
I was very skeptical, but it does work. It's not fast, but it does work. It did not affect my water parameters. If your water is hard, it won't affect the pH.
I set the temperature to 79-80°, dosed the recommended ammount for a 1.5 - 2X dose treatment, so for 75 gallons I dosed 13 or so teaspoons twice a day. I did this and after about 3 to 4 days, the ich was not visible, it did not infect any current residents, and the spots have not returned.
I did not use any salt because it's a planted tank and I have plecos, I did not raise the temperature higher than 80° because the barbs are kind of sensitive to heat.
It smells bad and tints the water brown. It does not require water changes, just do them as normal.
I was very skeptical, but it does work. It's not fast, but it does work. It did not affect my water parameters. If your water is hard, it won't affect the pH.
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Srkoe
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Re: My gala has ich!!!!
I might have some of that...I need to look, thankyou.
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Re: My gala has ich!!!!
Most people here say the best way is raise the temp(slowly) up to about 84 iirc and add aquarium salt per instructions. Keep it up for a week or so then slowly lower the temp back down
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.
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Srkoe
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Re: My fahaka has ich!!!!
Title was suppose to say "fahaka". I corrected it. On my phone....it didn't recognize Fahaka and changed it to gala.
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sevenyearnight
Re: My fahaka has ich!!!!
Make sure it's the stinky brown herbal kind, not the blue green kind.
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Srkoe
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Re: My fahaka has ich!!!!
I already started salt/heat treatment...with tablesalt. That's what PP told me to use last time. I just want to have other options available if symptoms do not subside in about a week.
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xrayjeeper83
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Re: My fahaka has ich!!!!
Oh ok, sounds like you got it under control lol
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.
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sevenyearnight
Re: My fahaka has ich!!!!
I used the herbal stuff instead of salt because I couldn't use salt, just suggesting something that worked for me since her last run of salt treatment did not work.
You'd have to buy a few bottles since you have larger tanks. For the full run I needed 2.
I did also use this in the past on puffers and they showed no bad reaction.
You'd have to buy a few bottles since you have larger tanks. For the full run I needed 2.
I did also use this in the past on puffers and they showed no bad reaction.
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Re: My fahaka has ich!!!!
i recently went through this with my fahaka. raised temp and used aquarium salt worked fine. not 100% sure if table salt is the right stuff but someone more qualified will most likely be along soon
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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Srkoe
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Re: My fahaka has ich!!!!
Is the stuff you have called Kordon's "ich attack". That's what I have a bottle of and it says it's herbal.sevenyearnight wrote:My phone's auto correct always does weird stuff.
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Srkoe
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Re: My fahaka has ich!!!!
Never mind...that is what you said...my mind is all over the place right now! Thanks guys!!! I'm still open to more suggestions if anyone has any.
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sevenyearnight
Re: My fahaka has ich!!!!
Does anyone know if using that product and salt is safe? If so, that might be an idea.
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Re: My fahaka has ich!!!!
I had treated my fahaka alittle after I got him with the high temp, salt, and lights off. Jungle Labs Ick Guard 2 is one I have had great success with all my small or scaleless fishes like catfishes, small tetras, and loaches that cleared ick up worries free. It or the Kordon product that seven mentioned would had been my 2nd choice of treatment if all else had failed but the salt, high temp treatment worked so I did not have to go that route. Oh and Ocean Nutrition frozen muti vitamin krill helped also. Boostin their immune systems is a big plus also. So I hope that Kordon treatment helps.
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