Ammonia = 0 Nitrite = 0
Nitrate = 10
PH = 8.2
SG 1.010 (hyposalinity to treat a huge outbreak of ICH)
temp 26 C
Please if anyone can watch this video and help diagnose this and why i am having this problem i have had two fish die within 24 hours and i know its more than likely too late for my puffer but i can't bare to see him go, i atleast want to know whats happened in my tank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SScFmMtMrL4
URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
for those who can't see his face has turnt black his beak was purple last night now his face is black and his mouth drys open making his beak appear shorter
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xrayjeeper83
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Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
im no expert but im 99.9% that porc's need to be full salt which is 1.023-.025
could be the reason why he is having problems
could be the reason why he is having problems
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.
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sevenyearnight
Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
He's doing a hypo salinity treatment for crypyt.
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Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
He is in hypo for ich. Had Puffer Queen been helping you at all? You really need her help.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
ihope she can help 've posted on marine depot I will pm her when I get home
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Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
She is best to get posting on her forum.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
Don't know if this is similar (I hope not) but this is what my GSP looked like a day or 2 before he died - never found out the cause & the other one in the tank was fine (& still is). I really hope you can get some help with your little guy.
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Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
thanks for pic, It does look similar and i have little hope he will survive especially as ive lost two fish yesterday with strange skin problems however i have a yellow tang left in the same tank who seems absolutely fine. so im not sure if this has been contagious and from the other fish if my tangs fine, i just hope we can get to the bottom of the this and work out the cause. not that i didnt care about the other fish im obviously gutted about them, but this is going to be a huge blow to lose this little guy as sad as it sounds ive spent everyday for the last 9-10 months checking on him and hes a proper little character they just aren't like fish.
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Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
Looks like a heavy bacterial infection, likely Vibrio spp.
Antibiotics would be a possible treatment, but - sorry to say - this looks and sounds as being too late.
Antibiotics would be a possible treatment, but - sorry to say - this looks and sounds as being too late.
Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man, and he'll eat for weeks.
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Black Widow
Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
Its never too late! raise the salinity back to original levels (to reduce stress), and start treating him with Melafix for the possible bacterial infection. Is he still eating?
Oh and Hypo will not do crap for your puffer and his ICH I have tried that method a million times, its much easier to either treat with copper or install a UV / Ozone to wipe the WS out. I think as of now you have more important things to worry about than whitespot! So you should treat his new complications first before worrying about any crypto, as it seems your over-diagnosing and therefore complicating the situation. Hence raising his stress levels, stressed puffers never fair well. So get your water back upto peak quality and SG, and treat for his belly / face infection! If hes eating he will pull thru
Oh and Hypo will not do crap for your puffer and his ICH I have tried that method a million times, its much easier to either treat with copper or install a UV / Ozone to wipe the WS out. I think as of now you have more important things to worry about than whitespot! So you should treat his new complications first before worrying about any crypto, as it seems your over-diagnosing and therefore complicating the situation. Hence raising his stress levels, stressed puffers never fair well. So get your water back upto peak quality and SG, and treat for his belly / face infection! If hes eating he will pull thru
Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
If it's for ich, try using copper treatments. My GSP had ich in the beggining, after treating with copper for a month, he's been healthy.
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Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
At this point, I'd try anything. Be sure not to use copper in hypo!!!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
Melafix won't help with Vibrio... If you want to try antibiotics go for Maracyn 2.
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Re: URGENT HELP SICK PORCUPINE PUFFER
sorry to hear that the puffer passed 
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