since last night my figure eight has lost its colour...he isnt as active as he was in the past few days..salinity is 19 and SG is at 1.014..and there are no nitites..there is two fish in a 20g....the other guy is perfectly fine...i noticed it last night that he was losing his colour but i thought he was just going to sleep..since that is what i read inother posts...but when he hadnt changed by the morning i am becoming worried...and his tail is also never opened he keeps it all closed up..its really weird
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milky colour on my figure 8
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Re: milky colour on my figure 8
The first big issue that I see is the salinity. You can lower that down to about 1.005, such a high salinity isn't good for them. Why don't you do a water change right now and lower the salinity to about 1.012. To do that you can do a 50% water change with water at 1.010.
Am I correct in assuming that you have 2 F8s in the tank? How large are they?
Can you answer any more of the following questions? It will help a lot
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
Am I correct in assuming that you have 2 F8s in the tank? How large are they?
Can you answer any more of the following questions? It will help a lot
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
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Re: milky colour on my figure 8
there are two...they are only about 1.5 inches each....i dont know the ph or nitrate levels...ammonia and nitrita are 0 and SG is at 1.014..there might still be a ghost shrimp in there unless they eat him...and i got 4 tiny snails from the pet store..i dont know what they are called but the guy said they are good to feed to puffers...i changed the water last wknd..so it is due for a change tomorrow...i am using marine salt bio support and a water conditioner...the tank has been set up for almost a year now
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Re: milky colour on my figure 8
It's very important to check Nitrate levels and the sg is too high for Figure 8 puffers (1.003-1.005)
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Re: milky colour on my figure 8
i just did a water change...the nitrate level is at 13 and the SG i now at 1.008...i will keep updating if i see any changes
Re: milky colour on my figure 8
How did the SG drop so quickly. Watch that you don't crash your tank, keep a close eye on these parameters. SG should only be lowered or increased by .002 per week.
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Blaine
Re: milky colour on my figure 8
Yes,...if you alter the salinity by more than .002 per week you stand a good chance of upsetting your biological filtration. Keep an eye on the Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrate readings.
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Re: milky colour on my figure 8
If you could post a pic, we might be able to ID the problem better.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: milky colour on my figure 8
sorry for the late reply..my internet was down last night...he seems to be getting a little better...heres the best pic i could get..he moves around too much..lol..compared to the oether guy in the tank who looks completely healthy
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Re: milky colour on my figure 8
No pic?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: milky colour on my figure 8
its up...:s
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Re: milky colour on my figure 8
I see it. That's pretty distorted by the corner of the glass though.
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Re: milky colour on my figure 8
heres a better shot i hope...he likes the corner..and when he swims i cant catch him quick enough lol
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Re: milky colour on my figure 8
What are you doing for him now?
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Re: milky colour on my figure 8
he seems to be doing much better....his colour is starting to slowly go bak to normal