Can anyone give me insight on the condition of the GSP?? I have had the F8 for months and he has never shown any signs of illness...jakjak1220 wrote:all bottles are less than 10 months old from date of bottling. API says they are good for 4 years i think.
HELP! GSP gill/lumps/curved spine tail
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: HELP! GSP gill/lumps/curved spine tail
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Re: HELP! GSP gill/lumps/curved spine tail
Do your water changes to get those nitrates down. They should be way under 20 and preferably 5-10.
With your water change schedule, the tank size, and the fish in that tank I can't believe the ammonia and nitrites are at 0. Specifically what brand and model is ur filter? If you are way over filtered, that's a good thing, mayby the filter is just keeping up...For now.
With your water change schedule, the tank size, and the fish in that tank I can't believe the ammonia and nitrites are at 0. Specifically what brand and model is ur filter? If you are way over filtered, that's a good thing, mayby the filter is just keeping up...For now.
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Re: HELP! GSP gill/lumps/curved spine tail
I have tested and retested everything.
Tetra PF10 filter.
Will that filter work if I were to convert the tank to brackish?
Tetra PF10 filter.
Will that filter work if I were to convert the tank to brackish?
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Re: HELP! GSP gill/lumps/curved spine tail
Agreed! Keep up on the water changes.
jak jak, Do U use a gravel vac at all in the substrate? If U don't I highly suggest getting one A.S.A.P.
U may also want to test the water coming out of the tap, this way U will know what the baseline is.
goodluck
jak jak, Do U use a gravel vac at all in the substrate? If U don't I highly suggest getting one A.S.A.P.
U may also want to test the water coming out of the tap, this way U will know what the baseline is.
goodluck
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Re: HELP! GSP gill/lumps/curved spine tail
The filter U are using is only good for keeping a single guppy happy in a 10 gallon.IMO
I would definitely look into getting a larger filter. Puffers are messy eaters, eat alot of live foods and create a large bioload, especially on such a small filter. Triple the amount of filtration U have with weekly 50% water changes would be great, and the sooner U upgrade the better chance of ur little guys surviving
I would definitely look into getting a larger filter. Puffers are messy eaters, eat alot of live foods and create a large bioload, especially on such a small filter. Triple the amount of filtration U have with weekly 50% water changes would be great, and the sooner U upgrade the better chance of ur little guys surviving
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Re: HELP! GSP gill/lumps/curved spine tail
wow i've never seen a gsp with such a dark belly...your in good hands here tho cuch!
Re: HELP! GSP gill/lumps/curved spine tail
Jak Jak I wouldn't worry about converting the tank to brackish right now. Did you read all those articles? F8 and GSP require a different salinity, yours are also in a tank that is to small. Most pressing matter is doing large water changes everyday until you can get a bigger tank for that GSP. If this isn't an option could you possible return him to the store ( as long as he wasn't bought at Walmart).jakjak1220 wrote:I have tested and retested everything.
Tetra PF10 filter.
Will that filter work if I were to convert the tank to brackish?
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Re: HELP! GSP gill/lumps/curved spine tail
LOL Thanks Hazima....I feel the lovehazima wrote:wow i've never seen a gsp with such a dark belly...your in good hands here tho cuch!
Now if we can help jak jak get his gsp, F8, and his lone guppy livin happily, healthy, and feelin the love as well!
BTW jak jak, hows the tankmates doing today?
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See if you can get a 20 for the fig8 and a 30 for the GSP (a 40b would be better.) You need to get them their own tanks for the best chance for them to live long lives. The fig8 may seem fine but you dont know what kinds of stresses its not showing signs of. One thing that concernes me is the big swollen side on the GSP. Mine had that and it kept moveing around and eventually killed it. Some people have even had them burst open and kill their GSP. Did he have that when you picked him up from the store?
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Re: HELP! GSP gill/lumps/curved spine tail
Bcummings, was it a nematode?
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