MBU (Midge) Looks Drunk
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: MBU (Midge) Looks Drunk
You can safely add Melafix with any meds.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: MBU (Midge) Looks Drunk
Midge
Update - Ammonia 0,
Nitrite 0 Nitrate 10 
it's getting there!!!
Midge is more lively today, but still a bit strange, colour is fine, top and bottom, still lying on the sand looking out, then he will swim fine, all of a sudden dart off really fast, he may bump into things, but he has not damaged himself, treatment as you know has been water changes, Epsom salts & Kusuri.
I will continue to monitor and probably add Melafix, once again thanks everyone for your help
Update - Ammonia 0,
Nitrite 0 Nitrate 10 it's getting there!!!Midge is more lively today, but still a bit strange, colour is fine, top and bottom, still lying on the sand looking out, then he will swim fine, all of a sudden dart off really fast, he may bump into things, but he has not damaged himself, treatment as you know has been water changes, Epsom salts & Kusuri.
I will continue to monitor and probably add Melafix, once again thanks everyone for your help
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Re: MBU (Midge) Looks Drunk
Midge has just eaten, me thinks he is getting better
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Re: MBU (Midge) Looks Drunk
good to hear
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.
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Re: MBU (Midge) Looks Drunk
Here's hoping, have you noticed any white stringy poo or anything unusual at all after treating with Kusuri. I would probably re-treat with Kusuri in 7 days again and another epsom salt treatment as well after the next water change.
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Re: MBU (Midge) Looks Drunk
yeah will do, no to poo, I will keep an eye on him
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Re: MBU (Midge) Looks Drunk
Midge is still not doing anything, he just stares out of the tank, I have heard that they do sulk, is this correct, like I said he did eat yesterday, and his colour is fine, getting a bit concerned again,dunno what else I can do. 
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Re: MBU (Midge) Looks Drunk
They can sulk, if food is not on offer my Fahaka wont move some days just stares at me, when he's hungry he wil become very active I just take that as how it is. Keep doing what you have already been doing and hopefully he'll come round. Try the tank with the light off as well, see if he becomes more active in lower light levels.
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