FW dip
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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sao870
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FW dip
any experience from you guys with fresh water dipping? i believe that my sharp nose puffer died from flukes he had all the symptoms i just did not know at the time and how do you FW dip a puffer ........... and i also believe that my banded sleeper goby has flukes can i fw dip gobies because i have read info saying not to do it.............
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Re: FW dip
Medicated dips are ok ... but I don't know much about SW to FW dips..
I am sure Nick or Dadof4 will know.
I am sure Nick or Dadof4 will know.
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Re: FW dip
there are tons of threads out there on varying methods of FW dips for SW fish
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=fresh+wa ... 8e2d0de10c
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Re: FW dip
I FW dipped my puffer a couple times for 20 minutes while with ich. He really just sat there calm. Didn't see much stress. You can match pH if you want but definitely match temperature. I'm not sure what response flukes take from a dip tho...
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Re: FW dip
I believe dips should be 30 minutes or more, until they start to stress. All that does is rid them of the bug on their body. you mustn't put them back into the same tank after that or treat the whole tank.
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Re: FW dip
I really think dipping for flukes is just putting off treating a problem - they're not going to go away from just a dip.
A store can do it to make a fish look clean before sale, or it can be done in order to make a fish more comfortable before treatment begins if an infestation is so heavy the stress from the parasites is greater than the stress from the dip will be.
I'd personally just use a strong dose of flubendazole and kill them all from get go without risking any stress.
A store can do it to make a fish look clean before sale, or it can be done in order to make a fish more comfortable before treatment begins if an infestation is so heavy the stress from the parasites is greater than the stress from the dip will be.
I'd personally just use a strong dose of flubendazole and kill them all from get go without risking any stress.
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sao870
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Re: FW dip
thank you thank you .... i have decided to treat the whole tank but i cant find the product that you listed can you list a few more .. thanks