Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
I know that smaller puffs eat every day, but I have always thought that bigger puffs were to eat ever other day or every couple of days??
Your puff is not really chunky..perhaps you should feed one large meal every couple of days??
Don't consider them rude, most of us here are just REALLY hardcore about puffer care.
Your puff is not really chunky..perhaps you should feed one large meal every couple of days??
Don't consider them rude, most of us here are just REALLY hardcore about puffer care.
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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
I prefer the smaller meal more often approach now. I used to feed a large meal and then wait a few days but I prefer to split that up now and feed a smaller portion each day.
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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
The reason I ask about that lump is from possible constipation, considering where it's located.
I went back to read over this thread & I didn't notice posting of fish size, you just say "small". Even my 6" GSPs ate only every other day & my 12" fahaka eats 2x/week. In nature, food is found much more sparingly than the large banquets we can feed them in our homes. We tend to greatly overfeed our fish. In the wild, they gorge themselves on large meals & then fast, until they find/catch more prey.
I also see you are feeding live mussels to him. Are they QTed before feeding out? If not, I would freeze to rid them of any pathogens they may carry.
I went back to read over this thread & I didn't notice posting of fish size, you just say "small". Even my 6" GSPs ate only every other day & my 12" fahaka eats 2x/week. In nature, food is found much more sparingly than the large banquets we can feed them in our homes. We tend to greatly overfeed our fish. In the wild, they gorge themselves on large meals & then fast, until they find/catch more prey.
I also see you are feeding live mussels to him. Are they QTed before feeding out? If not, I would freeze to rid them of any pathogens they may carry.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
I agree with Hilly. Because I have such a variety of puffers, many which need to eat every day, I tend to feed all my puffers every day. However, I've got what are called "light" feeding days and then "regular" feeding days. The so-called "light" days just mean that instead of skipping a meal that day, I just make it very light, so they are still getting something but not so much as to over-feed. And then of course, the regular days I just feed as I normally would. I don't stick to any certain schedule, and I alternate between light feedings and normal feedings. But I don't want the puffers to get to know which days are which and that's why I do it differently each week. 
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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
I will think I will feed mine as I have been doing, as for live muscles they are frozen before placing in the tank. Not sure how to give blood worm, because Midge just sits and watches. Just info on his size from head to tail tip I would estimate @ being under 5".
Hey you guys have given me much food for thought .
Hey you guys have given me much food for thought .
I take on advice, but refuse to be bullied by those who think they are in control!! Mikey
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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
I wouldnt even bother with the bloodworm for him, big puffers just seem to ignore it as far too much effort to warrant moving for it. At least you have other fish that will take it.
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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
I only fed mine bloodworms when he was 1-2". once he got bigger than that, he no longer was interested. Your Mbu is about the same size as my fahaka. If you have a bait shop near, or someone that sells bait worms - try looking for Nightcrawlers. They are big, fat and juicy - and wiggle all over... My Fahaka can easily take one whole, and is enough to give him a slighty rounded belly. It might take him a minute to inspect it, and figure out if he really wants to bite - sometimes his tank mate (a Cichlid) will try running off with it... not that he does much than make it hang out of his mouth...) It's worth a shot though. Perhaps your MBU feels like he has to fight for his food? I know my Fahaka is very interested in whatever I put in the tank, but if the Cichlid gets in there, stealing his worm, clam, mussel or whatever - he tends to back off and go pout... Even if the cichlid doesn't eat it - or barely picks at it, I think Vicious is miffed at it being touched by others.

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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
Better yet, large earthworms/nightcrawlers.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
Another update Midge is fine, eating, swimming and looking interested in his surrounds 
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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
Glad to hear that Midge is getting back to normal activity. 
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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
Many thanks Pufferpuggirlpufferpuggirl wrote:Glad to hear that Midge is getting back to normal activity.
I take on advice, but refuse to be bullied by those who think they are in control!! Mikey
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I'd still like to see a pic
I love taking peeks at other people's tanks. Gives me ideas for my own!

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Re: Tank Mates and HELP URGENTLY
Liking the ocean rock mountain, looks good against the plants.
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