i dont see any battle scar (since now only got 2 in my 200ltr tank) and she's not pale in fact she got beautiful color on her belly 
I always do 50% WC every week for maintaining, anyone can help pls? Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
Today, my palembang acting strange, shes like unbalanced swimmer, when she stops, shes rolling almost upside down and got like short breathing i dont see any battle scar (since now only got 2 in my 200ltr tank) and she's not pale in fact she got beautiful color on her belly I always do 50% WC every week for maintaining, anyone can help pls?
i dont see any battle scar (since now only got 2 in my 200ltr tank) and she's not pale in fact she got beautiful color on her belly I always do 50% WC every week for maintaining, anyone can help pls? Puff Up Your Life !!!
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
Deleted...I goofed 
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
i already read that, but she doesnt seem to puff and she's not floating at the surface, but in the bottom with her belly almost upside down, so do u think this is normal for her pufferpunk?
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
I think she must have swallowed some air.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
OMG wat happen to her now?? already try to nudge her belly and nothing happen, but is it possible of air swallowed? or disease? can someone help me save my palembang? she still unbalanced and short breathing rite now
wat happen to her now?? already try to nudge her belly and nothing happen, but is it possible of air swallowed? or disease? can someone help me save my palembang? she still unbalanced and short breathing rite now Puff Up Your Life !!!
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
"Nudging" isn't enough. You've got to grab her by the tail, head upward & under water & shake, hard. You can also try Epsom salt, at 1 tbsp/10g for swelling issues.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
I hate to say this .... but that looks VERY similar to how my Uno looked before it passed. I tried to burp Uno and nothing happened. I wish I could help you with your Palembang, beautiful puffer too. I wish you every bit of good luck and hopefully something happens and she gets back to normalcy.
Have you done anything different , or made any changes lately?
Have you done anything different , or made any changes lately?
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
... She died this morning... Last night already try to nudge her maybe about 5 min and nothing come out from her mouth so i stopped about 1 min and try it again several time, but still got nothing. Do u have a video for this pufferpunk? so maybe me or someone else can learn how to do it next time i got the same prob i'm so sad pufferpuggirl cause she is the one that has the most beautiful color from 4 of them, thats why i keep her but anyway thanks for all ur help, maybe i learn something from this and manage to do it better next time
Last night already try to nudge her maybe about 5 min and nothing come out from her mouth so i stopped about 1 min and try it again several time, but still got nothing. Do u have a video for this pufferpunk? so maybe me or someone else can learn how to do it next time i got the same prob i'm so sad pufferpuggirl cause she is the one that has the most beautiful color from 4 of them, thats why i keep her but anyway thanks for all ur help, maybe i learn something from this and manage to do it better next time Puff Up Your Life !!!
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
so sorry to hear about this
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
I'm sorry for the loss. she was a beautiful fish
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
I am really quite sorry for the loss of your Palembang. I suspected your puffer would not make it because yours looked exactly how Uno looked before he died. I don't know what you could have done sh1rang because I still have no idea what was wrong with my puffer. That's why I asked if you had done anything different or changed anything in the tank? Mine started with being a bit unbalanced, and then it went to where he could not stay straight up and just kept rolling. I tried "burping" him and nothing happened. I honestly have no clue what went wrong and was very distraught at losing Uno.
Please accept my condolences.
Please accept my condolences.
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
Thanks guys OMG yeah ur rite pufferpuggirl, mine also started with being abit unbalanced at the morning, first i thought that was normal cause sometimes they stand still at trees or rocks with vertical position (maybe lurking), but after i came home i saw her at the center of the tank with her belly upside down, and keep rolling when she moved already tried "burping" her also, but nothing comes out from her mouth and she died the next morning thats why i'm asking maybe pufferpunk got some vid about this "burping" things and how to done it right, cause sometimes its easier to learn from vid since i'm no good in english
I never changed anything from the first time i setup this tank, not even plants or rocks positon. I always do 50% WC every week and vacumm half of the UG. The bad thing is i never measure the water parameter cause i didnt have them yet
Sadly the day before she went unbalanced, she showed herself infront of the tank with her bright red colors (rarely for me to see her showed herself like that ) so that would be my last memory with her and anyway i love how u guys give ur puffer a name, i never give them a name maybe i'll try to give them a name later 
OMG yeah ur rite pufferpuggirl, mine also started with being abit unbalanced at the morning, first i thought that was normal cause sometimes they stand still at trees or rocks with vertical position (maybe lurking), but after i came home i saw her at the center of the tank with her belly upside down, and keep rolling when she moved already tried "burping" her also, but nothing comes out from her mouth and she died the next morning thats why i'm asking maybe pufferpunk got some vid about this "burping" things and how to done it right, cause sometimes its easier to learn from vid since i'm no good in english I never changed anything from the first time i setup this tank, not even plants or rocks positon. I always do 50% WC every week and vacumm half of the UG. The bad thing is i never measure the water parameter cause i didnt have them yet
Sadly the day before she went unbalanced, she showed herself infront of the tank with her bright red colors (rarely for me to see her showed herself like that
) so that would be my last memory with her and anyway i love how u guys give ur puffer a name, i never give them a name maybe i'll try to give them a name later Puff Up Your Life !!!
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
Your English is fine. You write very clearly and your English is much better than my Malay, (if that is your first language - it might not be, so apologies if any offence is given)
I'm very sorry to hear of your loss
I'm very sorry to hear of your loss
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Re: Help... Palembang unbalanced swimming
I'm sorry, i have no vid & wouldn't want to stress out a healthy puffer trying to make one. I couldn't find anything on Youtube either.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"