All Change..Substrate

Tain't fresh, and tain't marine! Talk about brackish setups.
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All Change..Substrate

Post by bigfatfish »

As some of you may know, I have 2 GSPs in a 55 UK Gallon bowfront. I have been toying with the idea of going full marine with them, but I am in no rush & will be taking it slowly (its taken me a year to get them to an SG of 1.017!!). There are also 8 ghost shrimp & about 20kg of ocean rock, which I hope to seed with live rock when the time comes?
I currently have plain old gravel as a substrate, but have bought some coral sand to replace. I plan on using a large net to scoop out the old stuff, then rinse the coral sand & replace. I was thinking to do the tank in 2 halves so as not to take out all the 'good stuff' with the old gravel all at once. This is probably going to be a messy process, but I have 2 filters (one internal & one external), which I hope will clear any sediment fairly quickly.
Has anyone done a complete substrate change, with fish in the tank? Is it going to be too stressful for them do you think? They don't mind water change time & are pretty used to me dabbling around in there!
Any suggestions greatly appreciated!
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Re: All Change..Substrate

Post by Lil' Swimz$ »

I have before. I actually just siphoned out all the rocks then put the sand in. I did take out the puffs before that though. Kept them in a bucket.
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Re: All Change..Substrate

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I did a 100% substrate swap too once. I just drained half the water then scooped all the gravel out. Replaced it with heavily heavily rinsed sand. Then once the sand was in I used a dinner plate on the bottom to pour the new water in without kicking up all the sand. I did it with my puffs in the tank but I felt bad cuz it got pretty cloudy but they made it fine. Once it cleared they were cruzing around leaving lil belly tracks in the sand so I knew they liked it. Didnt have any probs with Water Parameters either. So I wouldnt worry about losing bacteria especially if youve been running two filters for a year on this tank.
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Post by Lil' Swimz$ »

Ha ha SammyDee, the belly lines.

A little TidBit: I washed mine for probably an hour and it turned out beautiful. Zero cloudiness. The gravel made the water cloudier.
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Re: All Change..Substrate

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Well, I have taken out half the gravel today & will do the other half tomorrow. Tank got pretty cloudy looking, but cleared within 30 minutes - I will change the filter floss regularly during this upheaval!
Not looking forward to rinsing all the sand. What would be the minimum depth I could go with - it will hopefully be a FOWLR tank in the future.
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Re: All Change..Substrate

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You dont really want to go more than an inch. If your plans are a FOWLR. Unless u wanna stir the sand occasionaly which still isnt a bad idea with even a smaller sand bed than an 1"

Definitely wash the sand very very good at least an hour. I washed the crap outta mine and it still made a good amount of cloudiness
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Image

Here we go...new coral sand in with the ocean rock. Will be having a little move around I think - once the dust has settled! Although pic not the best angle, so you can hardly see the long awaited sand!
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Cool backround!
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I love that back ground, when ever i venture into salt i think im going to hunt that stuff down
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YEa seriously I want that backround bad. Where ya snag that at?

Tanks looks real nice too!
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DAng just saw ur in the UK soo I hope my LFS can order it. Best backround I ever seen. Makes me want some Coronas. Is there any logo on the backround I could try looking up??
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Theres no logo. I got it off e-bay - I'll have a look & see if I can find the name of the seller. (its only since using the Seaview adhesive that the colours have really come alive).
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Yeah, let us know if you find it again, I want it as well
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SammyDee
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Thx. Yea seaview is amazing I use it now too. Wow wat a difference from before with just tape. Looks like it's painted on with the seaview stuff.
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