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On his fins in those pictures are the dots in subject. He has NOT been scratching or showing any symptoms. I don't know how long they have been there. At least a few days.
Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Pufferfish88
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Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
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Pufferfish88
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Re: Ich or something else?
Last few pictures show it the best.
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xrayjeeper83
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Re: Ich or something else?
nvm didnt work
RTR wrote:Fahakas do not have tank mates, they may have swimming food reserves.
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Pufferfish88
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Re: Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
I personally don't think what I'm seeing is ich (whitespot). Sometimes puffers have white marks and I wonder if they aren't similar to bruising or a type or scarring. Perhaps someone else will have more to contribute, but I don't think it's ich or anything you need to worry about (I hope not anyway). 
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bigfatfish
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Re: Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
I agree. It doesn't look like like ich. If he is well in all other ways, just wait & see if anything develops - & keep up with water changes!
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Pufferfish88
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Re: Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
Ok good news then so far. It doesn't look as salt-grain-like as other ich pictures I have seen and he isn't itching or covered in dots. Just a little paranoid maybe because I want to stock more fish in my 55 other than my puffer and 1 mollie but I want to make sure it's ich free before adding more.
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Re: Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
Given what you've just said, about wanting to add other fish in with that puffer, I would be very careful. GSP's can sometimes be nippy towards other tankmates, so you will need to be prepared if that is the case.
May I ask .... is this puffer in brackish water or not?
May I ask .... is this puffer in brackish water or not?
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Pufferfish88
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Re: Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
It's in full marine with 55 lbs of live rock and a skimmer. I know he will nip the more he matures.
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Myaj
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Re: Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
I would say its more along the lines of minor fin damage, similar to a bruise. Keep an eye on it though, but I'm thinking its just fine.
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Re: Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
Agree with Myaj, just looks like a bit of fin damage. Nothing too serious.
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DwarfPufferLover
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Re: Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
I don't have a GSP but that doesn't look like ick. But I would watch your GSP just in case for a couple of days/weeks. Also try hcecking the mollie. If it is ick...it would've probably spread to the mollie.
Got my Dwarf Puffer *Squirt* on July 1st, 2010. Still attempting to get him/her to eat bloodworms.
Also join me at the Triops forum!!: http://thetriopsforum.com/
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Re: Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
Yea I agree with everyone here. Its not ICK my puffs looked like this when I got them and nothing ever developed from it. I assume its bruising/ scarring from being crammed in packages or small tanks with other puffers from the suppliers.
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Brandon8521
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Re: Ich or something else? (PHOTOS)
Ich will look like someone took a salt shaker to em and it stuck all over them. It stands on top of the skin and is not part of the skin. That should give you a good idea of what to look for. Also if they get moody they will develope a thick coat of slime that lets the sand stick to them and can sometimes look like ich but nowing your fish will help you determine what it is.