pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
Ok, i'll try to make this short and to the point.
1. It's true that the hardness of the water plays a part in the pH adjustability?
2. I bought API's pH 7 buffering powder but the highiest my pH could go is only 6.2 and by the end of the 24hrs period it drops to 5.1 !
3. For the past 4 days, i do daily 10% water change as not to shock my current MBU too much.
What is the issue iam facing here?.
My Seachem nitrate is reading safe.
Nitrite have not messured.
All iam asking is what are the contrubuting factors for the pH to keep dropping?
Drift wood?
Thanks guys.
1. It's true that the hardness of the water plays a part in the pH adjustability?
2. I bought API's pH 7 buffering powder but the highiest my pH could go is only 6.2 and by the end of the 24hrs period it drops to 5.1 !
3. For the past 4 days, i do daily 10% water change as not to shock my current MBU too much.
What is the issue iam facing here?.
My Seachem nitrate is reading safe.
Nitrite have not messured.
All iam asking is what are the contrubuting factors for the pH to keep dropping?
Drift wood?
Thanks guys.
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
What pH is your tap water? If it's that low, you really need to talk to your water company about why their pH is like urine! Fluctuating pH with additives & then then dropping like that is very stressful on your fish. Better not to add anything at all.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
I did a little research cum survey on the local tap water pH value.
It's always in the rage on 5.48 ~ 5.58.
Does drift wood plays a part in the fluctuating pH?
Carbon in my ehiem external filter?
As we speak just now, i just checked 8 hrs my pH is at 6.2 and now its 6.07.
My pH meter is calibrated correctly.
Thanks.
It's always in the rage on 5.48 ~ 5.58.
Does drift wood plays a part in the fluctuating pH?
Carbon in my ehiem external filter?
As we speak just now, i just checked 8 hrs my pH is at 6.2 and now its 6.07.
My pH meter is calibrated correctly.
Thanks.
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
Reading through my reply, i just relaize something!!!
pH value isn't dropping as fast as few days back!
I think its due to my daily 10% water change!
Few days back around this time the pH would drop much lower...
Things that makes you go hmmmm.....
pH value isn't dropping as fast as few days back!
I think its due to my daily 10% water change!
Few days back around this time the pH would drop much lower...
Things that makes you go hmmmm.....
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
What cha reckon?
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
It's KH, not GH, that is of importance for the PH. A low KH can give a unstable PH.StriGoi wrote:1. It's true that the hardness of the water plays a part in the pH adjustability?
StriGoi wrote:I did a little research cum survey on the local tap water pH value.
It's always in the rage on 5.48 ~ 5.58.
Yes. Wood can lower the PH.Does drift wood plays a part in the fluctuating pH?
Not as far as I know. Why do you use carbon?Carbon in my ehiem external filter?
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
when i posted about having a low ph, it was a dodgy test kit giving a wrong reading
could it be a possibility here?
could it be a possibility here?
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
To remove the odors from the water.Troender wrote:It's KH, not GH, that is of importance for the PH. A low KH can give a unstable PH.StriGoi wrote:1. It's true that the hardness of the water plays a part in the pH adjustability?
How can i have a batter kH?
StriGoi wrote:I did a little research cum survey on the local tap water pH value.
It's always in the rage on 5.48 ~ 5.58.That's low! No wonder you have problems with your PH dropping.
So started from last night i added in the API's pH 7 powdering soda to have a stable pH 7 before i pour in the new 10% water change.
Yes. Wood can lower the PH.Does drift wood plays a part in the fluctuating pH?
Guess i should remove them.
Not as far as I know. Why do you use carbon?Carbon in my ehiem external filter?
Is it not advisable too?
Thanks for the replies.
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
lesleyanndunn wrote:when i posted about having a low ph, it was a dodgy test kit giving a wrong reading
could it be a possibility here?
Initially i thought so too!!!
I did a double calibration check again and again to eliminate that possibility.
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
First i checked both my pH 7 & 4 buffering solution with a standalone pH strip before calibration.
After calibration, i do another check of the tested water with both my digital pH meter and pH strip.
After calibration, i do another check of the tested water with both my digital pH meter and pH strip.
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
Guess what guys, 5 hours after my first original post, my pH is still reading at 6.7.
Meaning to say it is dropping VERY slowly compared to 4 days back.
Time for my daily 10% water change soon! Yeah !
Meaning to say it is dropping VERY slowly compared to 4 days back.
Time for my daily 10% water change soon! Yeah !
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
You really need to complain to your water supply company. No need for carbon, your water shouldn't smell--but with that water... Definitely remove any driftwood that could lower it further & stop using buffers that can cause pH swings.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
what about the suggestion of coral sand to up your ph?
was suggested to me, and it does it slowly?
was suggested to me, and it does it slowly?
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
Great idea but I'm thinking he should still stick to small frequent WC, so as not to swing the pH too much.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: pH In Water Keeps Dropping.
Pufferpunk wrote:You really need to complain to your water supply company. No need for carbon, your water shouldn't smell--but with that water... Definitely remove any driftwood that could lower it further & stop using buffers that can cause pH swings.
Ok, initially i had 3 pieces of drift wood in it.
I removed one when the problem started.
I will remove the other 2 tomorrow.
But my puffy will not have hiding place and things to swim around at... LOL
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