SAP's

[xrayjeeper83]

Ok im sure im going to get on yalls nerves here lol. But I have desided I am going to stay freshwater, love the plants I have to much to chance killing them all in brackish. That being said I cant afford a bigger tank so I have to go with smaller puffers and like the SAP's.

I have a 55G, how would yall stock it? How many SAP's and what other type fish in it? Oh all my numbers are good, my PH has dropped down to 8 from 8.4 about a week ago. I dont know what my hardness is yet, waiting for my test kit from my exgf, or to call my water board and ask them.

[Ohyouknow]

It sounds like you have it all narrowed down finally!
And who's to say, once you really get into the puffer groove, down the road you can find the room and a tank for one of those larger puffers you want! I think SAP's will be quite happy as well and make you quite happy, though!

[xrayjeeper83]

Ya got it figured out, now just to figure out how many and what other fish can live peacefully with them.

[Ohyouknow]

Hm, no clue there. I'll take notes though, as I'd like to have some someday. In the meantime, working on a 5.5 gal for a solo DP on my desk. I feel lonely in here

[Pufferluv09]

I would put 3 or 4 in a 55. I think it'd be best as a species-only tank, but I have seen them coexist with various tetras like black skirts and neons.

[xrayjeeper83]

and sap's are a true freshwater puffer right, dont have to go brackish, or marine

[Pufferluv09]

Yep, they are true freshwater.

[xrayjeeper83]

Alright i finally made my mind up and have a LFS ordering some SAP's for me . I had 1 pond snail in my 55 to start with, and some MTS's, but I noticed yesterday 5-6 baby pond snails roaming around. Should I pull them out and put them in with my Beta in a 5 gallon or just let them hang out and get eatten? I ask cause I saw the thread about puffers eating till they pop.

[Flutter]

Just remember, SAPs are -very- neurotic and high energy. They'll pace, glass surf, etc. If this will annoy you then don't get them

[J-P]

If you want to breed the snails, pull them. If not leave them. Your SAPs are not going to burst My 3 (Flutter's) went through over 100 in a week. Now, I have to reestablish a breeder tank for snails.

[xrayjeeper83]

Flutter thats just what I want, I dont like a fish that just sits there or moves slow. Thats why I got rid of some cichlids me and my exgf, and restocked with tetra's(of course I got kicked out shortly after lol).

J-P thanks for the info. I may catch a few of the ponds and move them over to let them do thier thing. Leave a few for a midnight snack for them

[Flutter]

They'll enjoy that. They are stunning predators. Very dedicated and very efficient.

[jus85411]

i would stay away from MTS, i heard they can be too hard and break a puffers teeth

[xrayjeeper83]

really? that sucks,ive gottem in my tank to help keep the sand from compacting to much