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I just came home to find my female looking like this:

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What IS that thing hanging from her belly?
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~reefchik~ wrote:I just came home to find my female looking like this:

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What IS that thing hanging from her belly?
You can try emailing me the pics. I can't see them at work. Steel.and.Fire@hotmail.com is my phone email.
I hope whatever it is, you find assistance ASAP :(
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Post by doraemon »

Lol looks like poop to me :)
what did you feed it? whatever you feed your puffer thats what usually the colour of the poop is.
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Post by purplecandle »

I cannot help you But..Please take pictures of the thing if it falls off..

Perhaps it is a hemorrhoid...Just kidding..that thing, whatever it is..is very scary!!!!!!!!

Does the puff seem bothered by it?
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I can't tell....does it look as if it is a growth of some sort or does it look separate from the body? It looks like a growth judging by the color, but I cannot see that close. Zoom in more. Haha. Just kidding. It's a good shot. Well see if you can give a little more info. Is it growing? Does it appear to be disconnecting? Let me know and I might be able to direct you to what it is.
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Has it fallen off or is it still hanging out her backside. What food was last given. Looks pink like digested Krill.
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Might be swelling from something lodged up in the good 'ol rectum. If that is the case....it will break down and they will work it out. I don't think it's swelling from a parasite or anything like that. Not 100% though.
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I think the fish's mouth is too small for that to be a single piece of undigested food. I suspect it could be a prolapse, a small length of inside out intestine. Usually will go away by getting sucked back in on it own. DO NOT try to knock a prolapse off. Prolapse can be caused by constipation, so if you decide that's what it is, some epsom salt in the water should help clear out anything else stuck in there.
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I'm thinking prolapse too.
It's attached almost certainly. If she was older I might think ovipositor, but she's only about an inch and half long.

The last thing she ate was bloodworms as far as I know. She could have gotten ahold of a couple small snails I put into the tank yesterday, too. Really small.

I just looked and it's still there. It wasn't there this morning, but I went to the grocery store for a bit and when I came home - there it was.

She acts fine. Like "feed me! NOW!" :)
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I'd try the epsom salt, it's pretty much harmless. Bloodworms and snails make pretty dark poop, nothing like that.
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Post by ~reefchik~ »

Yes, I have been siphoning out lots of dark poop since these kids moved into the 'hood!

What is the dosing for epsom salts and do I need to take her to a QT tank to do it? Or can I dose the tank?
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I like coming to this forum because the members here are so informative and brilliant..I often take mental notes..just so I can learn things..

But this one blows my mind for some reason...Prolapse? Who would have thought that such a thing could occur to a fish? I am writing this one down...

You guys are amazing
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Nick wrote:I think the fish's mouth is too small for that to be a single piece of undigested food. I suspect it could be a prolapse, a small length of inside out intestine. Usually will go away by getting sucked back in on it own. DO NOT try to knock a prolapse off. Prolapse can be caused by constipation, so if you decide that's what it is, some epsom salt in the water should help clear out anything else stuck in there.
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1tbsp per 10 gallon, it shouldnt hurt anything else in there just softens up the stools.
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thanks, Hilly!
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