There is no way I could have said "do this.... and it will fix your problems" I am just not qualified, but I wish I was
What's wrong with Pocky?
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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J-P
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Re: What's wrong with Pocky?
I understand ... I'm sorry I didn't chime in earlier but at the same time I'm not allowed to offer advice ... only options that others may or may not agree with.
There is no way I could have said "do this.... and it will fix your problems" I am just not qualified, but I wish I was
There is no way I could have said "do this.... and it will fix your problems" I am just not qualified, but I wish I was
if you follow me, you avoid stepping in the crap that I just did...
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Re: What's wrong with Pocky?
This is all very correct.I know there is controversy over the Melafix /Pimafix solutions vs hard meds.
My personal experience (which is limited) is that they are similar to over the counter medications. They do the job with mild conditions.
If the condition worsens you need stronger medication (the prescription type for us).
When your doctor tells you to stay home he is QT'ing you. The same with the fish.. need a QT to add stronger meds.
don't know if that opinion is valid but moving forward that is how I'll work.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: What's wrong with Pocky?
Was he ever dewormed when you got him?
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pufferpuggirl
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Re: What's wrong with Pocky?
I think, in my opinion, there's still a black area when it comes to puffer illnesses. We hope that we can rectify whatever is wrong with the few options we have, but really, to some extent, it's a bit of a guessing game. That's why I keep saying it would be nice if someone could put together a guide for what to do when your puffer becomes ill. Something like one of those flow charts where if your puffer has this symptom then continue to the next station, or if it's showing something different, then go to another station, if you know what I mean. I always hope and pray that my puffers don't become ill because my knowledge is very limited when it comes to sick puffers. 
Pufferluv09 -- I'm really sorry for your loss, truly I am. I wanted so much for Pocky to pull through. I hope this won't put you off keeping puffers because they really are unique fish and can be such a joy to have. Please accept my sincere condolences.
Pufferluv09 -- I'm really sorry for your loss, truly I am. I wanted so much for Pocky to pull through. I hope this won't put you off keeping puffers because they really are unique fish and can be such a joy to have. Please accept my sincere condolences.
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Poddington
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Re: What's wrong with Pocky?
A similar thing has happened with my GSP. Only had him 3 days but he was showing signs of IPs from day 1. Last night my husband commented that he thought he might be blind as he was bumping into the plants and decor. He sadly passed away during the night also. As I've been on edge about him I've tested my water the last 3 days, 1st day with inaccurate API sticks but yesterday and today with master kit 3 tests have all given a 0 nitrite result...so not sure if it was that caused the loss of Pocky or my Pod. I'm new to Puffers so can't add much more but thought it might help to know I have had very similar problem.
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Poddington
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Re: What's wrong with Pocky?
I agree with your idea PPG as I have been up to all hours searching the forum for possible causes of Pods symptoms....admittedly though I have learnt a lot by doing so. I'm not sure how it could be done but if it is possible it would help to send us newbies in the right direction with our searching.
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Pufferluv09
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Re: What's wrong with Pocky?
I didn't treat him for IPs because he has always been nice and fat.
I also agree with you Pufferpuggirl, that would nice. And thank you for your condolences. I'm not done with puffs, it's just really disheartening to lose one. I have a sweet little Pea Puffer that encourages me a bit, and a Fahaka and SAP that I adore at my bf's house. But Pocky is very much missed.
Poddington, I am sorry for your loss as well.
I also agree with you Pufferpuggirl, that would nice. And thank you for your condolences. I'm not done with puffs, it's just really disheartening to lose one. I have a sweet little Pea Puffer that encourages me a bit, and a Fahaka and SAP that I adore at my bf's house. But Pocky is very much missed.
Poddington, I am sorry for your loss as well.
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Mezzovex
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Re: What's wrong with Pocky?
sorry about Pocky honny. <3
Tanks I currently own:
125g freshwater tank w\ 30g sump, 840gph pump, ocean clear canister filter,
20" fire eel, and Dib the Fahaka
55g freshwater tank w\ Magnum 330 filter
Tigger the South American Puffer
5.5g nano saltwater tank
Clean up crew + coral + a strawberry dottyback
125g freshwater tank w\ 30g sump, 840gph pump, ocean clear canister filter,
20" fire eel, and Dib the Fahaka
55g freshwater tank w\ Magnum 330 filter
Tigger the South American Puffer
5.5g nano saltwater tank
Clean up crew + coral + a strawberry dottyback
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Mezzovex
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Re: What's wrong with Pocky?
http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/fish_diseases/fins.html
Nice spread sheet of different symptoms, and there causes.
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/fish_pal ... ation.html
List of diseases\infections\bacteria with causes, cures and symptoms
Using these resources, It seems like Pocky died from Hemorrhagic Septicemia. Using Melafix would only prevent it from spreading, not curing him.
Nice spread sheet of different symptoms, and there causes.
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/fish_pal ... ation.html
List of diseases\infections\bacteria with causes, cures and symptoms
Using these resources, It seems like Pocky died from Hemorrhagic Septicemia. Using Melafix would only prevent it from spreading, not curing him.
Tanks I currently own:
125g freshwater tank w\ 30g sump, 840gph pump, ocean clear canister filter,
20" fire eel, and Dib the Fahaka
55g freshwater tank w\ Magnum 330 filter
Tigger the South American Puffer
5.5g nano saltwater tank
Clean up crew + coral + a strawberry dottyback
125g freshwater tank w\ 30g sump, 840gph pump, ocean clear canister filter,
20" fire eel, and Dib the Fahaka
55g freshwater tank w\ Magnum 330 filter
Tigger the South American Puffer
5.5g nano saltwater tank
Clean up crew + coral + a strawberry dottyback
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Pufferluv09
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pufferpuggirl
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Re: What's wrong with Pocky?
Thanks Mezzovex, although I still think something specifically for puffers would be greatly appreciated since puffers need more specialised care and you can't use the same medications for them.
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Pufferluv09
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Re: What's wrong with Pocky?
That is true. Some diseases/meds are universal, but certainly not all.. so it would be something to look into before treating. It is a helpful website though. Better than others I've seen. I found this flowchart for puffs, but it only has a few diseases. http://puffernet.tripod.com/diag-flowchart.html
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