The Big Upgrade

The forum for puffers that either live or start in brackish biotopes: GSPs, F8s, Ceylons & more.
User avatar
Hilly
Mentor
Posts: 1903
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:36 pm
Gender: Male
My Puffers: Current: Tetraodon Lineatus
Previous:
Tetraodon Sabahensis
Montrete Abei
Tetraodon Biocellatus
Carinotetraodon Salivator
Location (country): UK
Location: Nottinghamshire, UK

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by Hilly »

I dont think letting it run for a few days is going to make any difference. Better to shift everything over and have 30 gallons diluting the waste compared to 5.

When you say you changed the bag, are you referring to all the filter media in the filter?
Hilly
Mandabear
Puffer Fry
Posts: 26
Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:08 am
Location (country): United States

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by Mandabear »

J-P wrote:If your 5 gal is cycled, you could just transfer over everything. That is EVERYTHING... that bacteria is already adjusted to the GSP's ammonia output (hopefully).
That's what I've gotten as a general consensus, it seems. Good point about LFS pH. That makes me feel a little better. Water temperature is the other thing I want to match. While cycling the 5 gallon before I ever added the GSP, it took me a few days to get the thermometer stabilized. . .
Mandabear
Puffer Fry
Posts: 26
Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:08 am
Location (country): United States

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by Mandabear »

Hilly wrote:I dont think letting it run for a few days is going to make any difference. Better to shift everything over and have 30 gallons diluting the waste compared to 5.

When you say you changed the bag, are you referring to all the filter media in the filter?
Yes, I had an ammonia spike (fairly obvious given the inadequate tank size) and changed the filter bag and carbon. That is all the filter media in my filter. . .
User avatar
Hilly
Mentor
Posts: 1903
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:36 pm
Gender: Male
My Puffers: Current: Tetraodon Lineatus
Previous:
Tetraodon Sabahensis
Montrete Abei
Tetraodon Biocellatus
Carinotetraodon Salivator
Location (country): UK
Location: Nottinghamshire, UK

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by Hilly »

There is never any need to change all the filter media, Its a ploy to get you to spend more money. Squeezing out the filter media in old tank water when it gets dirty is more than andequate and if you have one large panel of filter media and its becoming more and more dirty cut it in 2 and replace only half, let that build up bacteria over a few weeks and then replace the other half. Frequent water changes will control ammonia and nitrite spikes. If you take out the old media it removes a lot of bacteria which could then in turn caus you to mini cycle again.

For now I suggest go with the concensus, shift everything over, test the water daily and apply water changes as required to deal with ammonia and nitrite but dont replace the media as it will take a lot longer to get your parameters steady.

Im still running filter media thats 4 years old in my internal filters and a good squeeze now and again keeps them running perfectly.

You're heading in the right direction, keep up the good work.
Hilly
Mandabear
Puffer Fry
Posts: 26
Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:08 am
Location (country): United States

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by Mandabear »

Hilly wrote: Im still running filter media thats 4 years old in my internal filters and a good squeeze now and again keeps them running perfectly.

You're heading in the right direction, keep up the good work.
Wow, good to know about the filter media. I had no idea.

Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm about to get this upgrade started. I hope it goes well.
User avatar
J-P
Former Staff Member
Posts: 5626
Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:21 am
Gender: Male
Location (country): Japan
Location: Sasebo, Nagasaki, Japan

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by J-P »

It is a major learning curve, and you're taking the crash course :)
if you follow me, you avoid stepping in the crap that I just did...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZR55G ... pqlgec1A2Q
User avatar
Hilly
Mentor
Posts: 1903
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:36 pm
Gender: Male
My Puffers: Current: Tetraodon Lineatus
Previous:
Tetraodon Sabahensis
Montrete Abei
Tetraodon Biocellatus
Carinotetraodon Salivator
Location (country): UK
Location: Nottinghamshire, UK

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by Hilly »

You're not the first, you wont be the last, the insturctions tell you to replace the media periodically, its just to get you to part with your cash. With sponge type filter media this is highly unnecessary, Im not saying never but nowhere near the amount the manufacuters recommend. Other finer meshed pads used for catching extremely fine particles do need replacing as they just dont rinse out very well and start to break up and carbon does need replacing when it has expended its usefulness.

If you're unsure about anything just ask, youll find plenty of help on here.
Hilly
User avatar
Pufferpunk
Queen Admin
Posts: 32976
Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
Gender: Female
My Puffers: Puffers I have kept:
T lineatus
T miurus
A modestus
T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
C lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles
Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
Location: Greenville, SC
Contact:

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by Pufferpunk »

The 5 gallon tank is not un-cycled. I cycled it for over three weeks before adding my puffer
Please explain in detail how this was done.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
User avatar
pufferpuggirl
Mbu Puffer
Posts: 3979
Joined: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:04 pm
Gender: Female
My Puffers: Puffs & Stuff:

1 x M Abei
1 x M Turgidus
1 x T Palembangensis
1 x M Baileyii
1 x T Schoutedeni
1 x T Leiurus
1 x T Miurus
Rainbow crab
crayfish
Location (country): Yorkshire, GB
Location: South Yorkshire, UK

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by pufferpuggirl »

Mandabear I'm really happy for you that you're upgrading and keeping your puffer. See how quickly they grow on you? I think you will be really thankful that you've kept him and wait till you see how happy he's going to be in that 30-gallon tank! :grats:
"Puffer .... man's best friend?"
Mandabear
Puffer Fry
Posts: 26
Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:08 am
Location (country): United States

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by Mandabear »

Brutus has been successfully transferred to a 30 gallon tank. He has only been in there for about half an hour, so we will see, but he seems better already. :D
User avatar
CarmenH
Fahaka Puffer
Posts: 539
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:01 pm
My Puffers: Doug, Takifugu Ocellatus RIP :-(
Frankie, Monotrete Turgidus
Zephyr, ???Tetraodon nigroviridis???
Location (country): Ontario, Canada

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by CarmenH »

Yay! It's so nice to hear how hard you've worked to keep him :-) How did you manage to find room for the new tank, and what about when there are inspections?
Carmen
Frankie, Monotrete Turgidus
Zephyr, Giant mutant Tetraodon Nigroviridis???
Odie, Tetraodon biocellatus RIP :-(
Doug, Takifugu Ocellatus RIP :-(
Mandabear
Puffer Fry
Posts: 26
Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:08 am
Location (country): United States

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by Mandabear »

CarmenH wrote:Yay! It's so nice to hear how hard you've worked to keep him :-) How did you manage to find room for the new tank, and what about when there are inspections?
I am keeping the tank at my dad's house which is right near my university. Plus, I stay with him during the summer which is in like a month. So the aquarium is not on campus.
User avatar
CarmenH
Fahaka Puffer
Posts: 539
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:01 pm
My Puffers: Doug, Takifugu Ocellatus RIP :-(
Frankie, Monotrete Turgidus
Zephyr, ???Tetraodon nigroviridis???
Location (country): Ontario, Canada

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by CarmenH »

Cool, at least you get to see him and take care of him...
Carmen
Frankie, Monotrete Turgidus
Zephyr, Giant mutant Tetraodon Nigroviridis???
Odie, Tetraodon biocellatus RIP :-(
Doug, Takifugu Ocellatus RIP :-(
User avatar
Pufferpunk
Queen Admin
Posts: 32976
Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 11:06 am
Gender: Female
My Puffers: Puffers I have kept:
T lineatus
T miurus
A modestus
T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
C lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles
Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
Location: Greenville, SC
Contact:

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by Pufferpunk »

I'm sure your parents will appreciate your visiting them more often! ;)
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Mandabear
Puffer Fry
Posts: 26
Joined: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:08 am
Location (country): United States

Re: The Big Upgrade

Post by Mandabear »

Pufferpunk wrote:I'm sure your parents will appreciate your visiting them more often! ;)
Haha yeah my dad actually already mentioned that.

I am a little worried. I came in the room just a minute ago and Brutus was sleeping against the filter intake. . . It wasn't like he was stuck but more like in that rest state. I think he's exhausted, but I'm worried he's not going to make it through the night. I've tested his water (pH, nitrate, nitrite, ammonia, temperature, salinity) and all of it is exactly the same as the old tank, except the ammonia which is almost at 0. I really hope he makes it through all this.
Post Reply