Burping a GSP
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Burping a GSP
You're getting that tank just in time! Does it come with everything? Do you know how long it's been empty?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Burping a GSP
its a never been used tank, it comes with lid and stand, for 100$, then i need to get rocks, i think a filter sys and lots more water conditioning things and a couple more tests, i have a hydrometer and ammonia test, i need nitrate test for sure. i hope they chipper up once they get moved!
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Gonna buy all that stuff & set up tomorrow?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Did you read this library/water-filtration/emergencycycle/.
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yay! So glad you're getting a 55gallon tank! Get them in there as soon as you can. 
Re: Burping a GSP
That's what I get for not reading the threadtrekenk wrote:Yes get them in the 55 gallon ASAP. I doubt whether that 5 gallon is cycled anyways. as the OP stated in their first post they didn't know how to cycle a tank.
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Re: Burping a GSP
ok 55 gallon tank is set up, i did let it run overnight, fish move in today, i used the aquasafe and also did an emergency cycle with some biosripa. They look much happier, swimming all over. the ph, ammonia, nitrate and nitrite tests all show that they are acceptable. I am going to do a water change today as well, or should i not?
Re: Burping a GSP
Wow. Good job! It's so nice to get new responsible puffer owners 
You've worked hard with these guys!
I would hold off on the water change if nothing is wrong. I'd think it would be best to let that bacteria settle down out of the water column before removing water.
You've worked hard with these guys!I would hold off on the water change if nothing is wrong. I'd think it would be best to let that bacteria settle down out of the water column before removing water.
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Agreed, let the bacteria take hold. Did you add it directly to the filter? What's the SG of that tank? I thought Bio-Spira was made just for SW now.
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Re: Burping a GSP
Hard works pays off in the end! I hope they grow fast, they look SO lost in that huge tank! whats SG mean? the directions said to put the bacteria into to filter and let it cycle through the water for 2 days, i only let it go one, it said it would make water immediately safe for fish.
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Re: Burping a GSP
Specific gravity, the measurement of salt content in a BW/SW tank, measured with a hydrometer or refractometer. What does the package of B-S say? If it's for FW, I'm afraid it's long expired. They stopped making FW B-S quite some time ago.
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Re: Burping a GSP
Specific Gravity is at 1.005, measured with a hydrometer, b-s is for salt water
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Re: Burping a GSP
Yeah, not the right bacteria for <1.005. You might be OK though, with the large amount of dilution in that tank.
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Re: Burping a GSP
oh crap. should i do anything else? also i know i was way over feeding them before, but how much should i feed them a day? they wont really eat the bloodworms, mostly krill, wont touch the fish flakes i was told they eat, and i cant find snails small enough in this town
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Re: Burping a GSP
Try any shelled meat from your grocers seafood department. ie. a clam, shrimp, mussel