Help with Gill flukes and no meds available!
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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apriljrobinson
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Help with Gill flukes and no meds available!
I didn't know what was wrong with my little puffers yesterday and today I see gill flukes, little red strings coming out of his gills! I don't have any access to the meds listed in this forum here in Hk, so I was hoping someone can offer some advice until I can see a vet tomorrow for some de-wormers. Please, anything you can offer will be greatly appreciated as I know I don't have much time left.
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Re: Help with Gill flukes and no meds available!
How much salt do you have in there now?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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apriljrobinson
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Re: Help with Gill flukes and no meds available!
the salinity is at 1.007
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apriljrobinson
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Getting the Praziquantel! Now what?
So, from all the research that I can see and the resources available to me, I'm looking at trying Praziquantel for their parasites. I read about bathing them in it, but can someone help me with the specifics? I'd hate to fudge this up and may just need some points clarified. The GSPs and I would be ever so grateful!
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Re: Getting the Praziquantel! Now what?
Well, bathing isn't the best option when treating IP's, at least if they are still eating. The object of treating internal parasites is to get the medication to the infestation, in this case the digestive tract.The best method is to crush some of the anti parasitic medication, dissolve in water and soak the puffers food in it. If you can't get him to take the medicated food you can soak it with some crushed garlic too, that should help entice them to eat it.
What makes you think you need to treat for IP's? Can you answer the above questions in red so we can get a better idea what is happening in the tank?
Edit: I looked up the dosing according to the Library article by MyaJ and it is "Orally: 23mg/pound of body weight x one treatment."
What makes you think you need to treat for IP's? Can you answer the above questions in red so we can get a better idea what is happening in the tank?
Edit: I looked up the dosing according to the Library article by MyaJ and it is "Orally: 23mg/pound of body weight x one treatment."
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Re: Getting the Praziquantel! Now what?
I see, this is related to gill flukes, I didn't see the previous post. I'm going to merge these posts to eliminate confusion.....
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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apriljrobinson
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Re: Help with Gill flukes and no meds available!
I saw the dosage of 38mg/ gallon of water and tried that, but he was already too far gone. We will miss him.
Now, the last of them, how is the best way to go about treating him? We should probably clear out the whole tank? and soak his food in more Praziquantel? How much P to water? I don't want to OD him. PLease help as I'd really like to save the last one.
Now, the last of them, how is the best way to go about treating him? We should probably clear out the whole tank? and soak his food in more Praziquantel? How much P to water? I don't want to OD him. PLease help as I'd really like to save the last one.