My F8 has just died, I'm sad.
I have only had him for a few weeks and today i did a 50% water (FW) change, It is a fairly new tank (4 weeks) so I have been doing a 20% change every 2nd day, I have started introducing brackish (.002) which i did last weekend.
He has not eaten much for the past few days too and kept to one end of the tank, I have tested the water every other day and levels are ok, Nitrate a little high the other day at .3 so did a 50% change then too.
I have a few other fish in the tank and they are fine, swimming around happy and eating normal, 2 x yoyo loaches, 3 x zebra's and a few gupp's
Any Ideas? I would like another but not if i have a problem
Garry
Rocket Died!!!!!
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Rocket Died!!!!!
1st of all, those other fish aren't brackish & won't appreciate any salt. Nitrate of 0.3 is no problem. What about ammonia/nitrite? How were you conditioning the water for WC? Are you adding any chemicals to the tank?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Rocket Died!!!!!
I have not been using any other chemicals in the water other than the aqua safe treatment for the tap water at 5ml for every 10 lts. Pet shop said the fish i had would be ok up to .030 brackish which i was taking it to over time, all other tests came ok with amonia 0, nitrite approx 20 and PH approx 7
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Re: Rocket Died!!!!!
So it's nitrite that is 0.3? Then that tank has not cycled properly & the last thing you want to do is add salt to that system. BTW, your pet shop is wrong. FW fish should be kept in FW.
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Re: Rocket Died!!!!!
thats what i thought so since he died thisafternoon i have completed 2 x 50% water changes and hover out etc, before i started adding salt all my levels were correct, I am going to do a 50% change every day for the next week to be safe before housing another
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Re: Rocket Died!!!!!
also whats the best way to clean the filter, last time i did it i just droped it into the water i removed when cleaning and rinsed it through with the old water
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Re: Rocket Died!!!!!
When you do get another one, then remove all those other fish (they're not BW anyway) or there won't be enough bacteria to support the puffer.
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Re: Rocket Died!!!!!
pardon if this sounds stupid but does it make a diff to the bac levels if you have more fish in the tank, as in not enough to go around?
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Re: Rocket Died!!!!!
Every fish produces waste & needs enough bacteria to break that toxic ammonia waste down to toxic nitrite, then much less toxic nitrate. More fish = more bacteria needed to support them. Remove some fish & add a different fish & there is enough bacteria from the ones you remove, to support the new one. Understand?
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Re: Rocket Died!!!!!
i think i'm keeping up lol, thanks