Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Mrs.Puff
- Green Spotted Puffer
- Posts: 250
- Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:20 pm
- My Puffers: I have had my first puffer for about 2-3 weeks now and her name is Mrs. Puff, i just bought another puffer about 5 days ago and his name is Mr. Puff. They are awsome fish and they look great!! Mr. Puff is more curious and loves to see me. Mrs. Puff is very shy but im working with her so hopefully she will become more open.
- Location: ohio
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
Well, all I have to say is, God bless my fiance's big heart! Last night, he came home with 2 dalmation mollies, 1 angel fish, 1 dwarf goruami, and some kind of pleco. Before my last puffer died is was telling him how I was going to start a FW community tank with the above fish and he came home with them! I was so shocked, yet very happy because he felt so bad for me about the puffers. I wasn't quite ready to get anymore but just the fact that he was thinking of me, and actually remembered some of what I wanted, makes me feel a lot better! I still do miss my puffers though.
Puffers are amazing!! 
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
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pufferpuggirl
- Mbu Puffer
- Posts: 3979
- Joined: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:04 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Puffs & Stuff:
1 x M Abei
1 x M Turgidus
1 x T Palembangensis
1 x M Baileyii
1 x T Schoutedeni
1 x T Leiurus
1 x T Miurus
Rainbow crab
crayfish - Location (country): Yorkshire, GB
- Location: South Yorkshire, UK
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
What a cool guy you have there -- sounds like one to hang on to! 
"Puffer .... man's best friend?"
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Mrs.Puff
- Green Spotted Puffer
- Posts: 250
- Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:20 pm
- My Puffers: I have had my first puffer for about 2-3 weeks now and her name is Mrs. Puff, i just bought another puffer about 5 days ago and his name is Mr. Puff. They are awsome fish and they look great!! Mr. Puff is more curious and loves to see me. Mrs. Puff is very shy but im working with her so hopefully she will become more open.
- Location: ohio
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
Awww thanx Pufferpuggirl, you are sooo sweet!! Yea he really is a nice guy lol. And really knows his fish too. I'm going to send you a PM to ask you some questions about the new fish, just because Im really not in the mood for disappointing comments due to the loss of my puffers.
Puffers are amazing!!
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
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pufferpuggirl
- Mbu Puffer
- Posts: 3979
- Joined: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:04 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Puffs & Stuff:
1 x M Abei
1 x M Turgidus
1 x T Palembangensis
1 x M Baileyii
1 x T Schoutedeni
1 x T Leiurus
1 x T Miurus
Rainbow crab
crayfish - Location (country): Yorkshire, GB
- Location: South Yorkshire, UK
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Mrs.Puff
- Green Spotted Puffer
- Posts: 250
- Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:20 pm
- My Puffers: I have had my first puffer for about 2-3 weeks now and her name is Mrs. Puff, i just bought another puffer about 5 days ago and his name is Mr. Puff. They are awsome fish and they look great!! Mr. Puff is more curious and loves to see me. Mrs. Puff is very shy but im working with her so hopefully she will become more open.
- Location: ohio
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
Thanx 
. Oh and to others who read this...I'm not dissing anyones advice at all, and I'm not trying to be rude whatsoever. It's just when I get disappointing comments like... "Oh that won't work", or "NO, you'll kill your fish". It just kinda beats me down a bit. Thank you all for understanding, especially you, Pufferpuggirl!
. Oh and to others who read this...I'm not dissing anyones advice at all, and I'm not trying to be rude whatsoever. It's just when I get disappointing comments like... "Oh that won't work", or "NO, you'll kill your fish". It just kinda beats me down a bit. Thank you all for understanding, especially you, Pufferpuggirl!Puffers are amazing!!
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
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LilGreenPuffer
- Former Staff Member
- Posts: 5301
- Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:26 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Dwarf puffer - Thumbelina (only mine in my heart now; she lives in CT with my friend)
RIP Inigo Montoya, Fezzik, and Vizinni.
RIP James Bond. - Location (country): United States
- Location: Kentucky
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
You've just FULLY stocked an uncycled tank? A mini-cycle killed your last fish, and you're going to put these fish through a traditional cycling process? Are you aware that in a traditional cycle, you're not supposed to stock fully - you only add a couple hardy fish at a time? Did you know that dalmation mollies get up to 5"? And what is "some kind of pleco"? And did you not hear that angels dislike being kept alone?
Are you sure that "he really knows his fish"?
Are you sure that "he really knows his fish"?
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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define999
- Dwarf Puffer
- Posts: 91
- Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:52 am
- Gender: Male
- My Puffers: 1 GSP
3 mono's - Location (country): USA
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
Sounds like a real nice guy..... I would suggest getting some seachem stability or Dr. tims bio-spira quickly before those fish start to suffer as well. That is if the puffers died from a mini-cycle.... Ask your boyfriend to buy if for you, stability at least can be found at most major pet shops.I wasn't quite ready to get anymore but just the fact that he was thinking of me, and actually remembered some of what I wanted, makes me feel a lot better!
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LilGreenPuffer
- Former Staff Member
- Posts: 5301
- Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:26 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Dwarf puffer - Thumbelina (only mine in my heart now; she lives in CT with my friend)
RIP Inigo Montoya, Fezzik, and Vizinni.
RIP James Bond. - Location (country): United States
- Location: Kentucky
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
The puffers died from a mini-cycle in a brackish tank. If the tank was cleaned out and turned freshwater, then there's no bacteria left, or none that will survive in fresh water. Surely the fish weren't added to a brackish tank.
The merits of Stability are still quite debatable.
The merits of Stability are still quite debatable.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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define999
- Dwarf Puffer
- Posts: 91
- Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:52 am
- Gender: Male
- My Puffers: 1 GSP
3 mono's - Location (country): USA
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
debatable yes, but bio-spira cannot be found just anywhere. Stability can, its better than nothin'..... or she can order online and maybe wait two or three days to get it in.... in which case her fish are still suffering. She will need to do massive water changes daily if she waits on the mail order.....The merits of Stability are still quite debatable
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Mrs.Puff
- Green Spotted Puffer
- Posts: 250
- Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:20 pm
- My Puffers: I have had my first puffer for about 2-3 weeks now and her name is Mrs. Puff, i just bought another puffer about 5 days ago and his name is Mr. Puff. They are awsome fish and they look great!! Mr. Puff is more curious and loves to see me. Mrs. Puff is very shy but im working with her so hopefully she will become more open.
- Location: ohio
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
Lilgreenpuffer: How DARE you question my boyfriends knowledge!!!!! For your damn information, they were not put in that tank!!! What is wrong with you huh? There has been another tank running we, always have another tank runing and it is freshwater only (which is why the puffers were not put in there). And no, I'm not stupid enough to put mollies, angelfish, the pleco, and gouarmi in a brackish tank! And it does not matter what pleco it is. It only gets 3" which is why I got it. Dalmation mollies DO NOT get 5". I've never seen them get 5" in my LIFE! I've owned them before and the most I've ever seen them get is 3" maybe 4". Maybe you need to do some more research?
Puffers are amazing!!
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
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Mrs.Puff
- Green Spotted Puffer
- Posts: 250
- Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:20 pm
- My Puffers: I have had my first puffer for about 2-3 weeks now and her name is Mrs. Puff, i just bought another puffer about 5 days ago and his name is Mr. Puff. They are awsome fish and they look great!! Mr. Puff is more curious and loves to see me. Mrs. Puff is very shy but im working with her so hopefully she will become more open.
- Location: ohio
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
The puffers did die from a mini cycle, yes, but it's not like I threw them into the tank UNCYCLED!! It was due to the fact that we were using and algae killer that killed off everything included the bad bacteria. Oh, and yea, the first time I got a puffer (which I knew nothing about) I put them in an uncylced tank and they lived up till the point the algae killer was put in. They lived a total of about a yr.
Puffers are amazing!!
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
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LilGreenPuffer
- Former Staff Member
- Posts: 5301
- Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:26 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Dwarf puffer - Thumbelina (only mine in my heart now; she lives in CT with my friend)
RIP Inigo Montoya, Fezzik, and Vizinni.
RIP James Bond. - Location (country): United States
- Location: Kentucky
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
Dalmation mollies do indeed get to 5". If your boyfriend had knowledge about fish, he wouldn't have gotten a single angel, or dalmations for a 20g. Also, it would nto be stupid to put the mollies in a brackish tank, or didn't you know that? It does indeed matter what kind of pleco it is. There are pitbull plecos, which are extremely rare and only get to 2", and there are bristlenoses, which get to 4". There are commons, which get to 12". There are dozens of other kinds as well, all of them various sizes. What kind do you have?Mrs.Puff wrote:Lilgreenpuffer: How DARE you question my boyfriends knowledge!!!!! For your damn information, they were not put in that tank!!! What is wrong with you huh? There has been another tank running we, always have another tank runing and it is freshwater only (which is why the puffers were not put in there). And no, I'm not stupid enough to put mollies, angelfish, the pleco, and gouarmi in a brackish tank! And it does not matter what pleco it is. It only gets 3" which is why I got it. Dalmation mollies DO NOT get 5". I've never seen them get 5" in my LIFE! I've owned them before and the most I've ever seen them get is 3" maybe 4". Maybe you need to do some more research?
However, I'm glad to hear that the tank is cycled. I'm truly sorry to have doubted you on that count. I guess you were adding ~2ppm ammonia every day, then?
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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Mrs.Puff
- Green Spotted Puffer
- Posts: 250
- Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:20 pm
- My Puffers: I have had my first puffer for about 2-3 weeks now and her name is Mrs. Puff, i just bought another puffer about 5 days ago and his name is Mr. Puff. They are awsome fish and they look great!! Mr. Puff is more curious and loves to see me. Mrs. Puff is very shy but im working with her so hopefully she will become more open.
- Location: ohio
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
Honestly...I'm not sure what kind it is. I'll try googling a lot of pics and see which one fits mine best and let you know. I can say that when he brought him home, he said that the LFS told him that it wouldn't get much bigger than it is now and he's about an inch or so. I know for sure it's not the common pleco because I'm aware that they get so big and he has two in his oscar tank.
Puffers are amazing!!
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
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Mrs.Puff
- Green Spotted Puffer
- Posts: 250
- Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:20 pm
- My Puffers: I have had my first puffer for about 2-3 weeks now and her name is Mrs. Puff, i just bought another puffer about 5 days ago and his name is Mr. Puff. They are awsome fish and they look great!! Mr. Puff is more curious and loves to see me. Mrs. Puff is very shy but im working with her so hopefully she will become more open.
- Location: ohio
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
BTW: sorry to have gotten so mad like that. I had just woke up from a nap after getting up wayyy too early and I get pretty cranky. And when I saw the post I just kinda got mad. So...I'm sorry to have jumped the gun on you like that.
Puffers are amazing!!
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
WELCOME! - 2 angelfish, and 1 upside down catfish
Piranha 29g
2 Oscars 75g
R.I.P: Mrs.Puff, Mr. Puff and, Jumbo
1 Betta 2g
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LilGreenPuffer
- Former Staff Member
- Posts: 5301
- Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:26 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: Dwarf puffer - Thumbelina (only mine in my heart now; she lives in CT with my friend)
RIP Inigo Montoya, Fezzik, and Vizinni.
RIP James Bond. - Location (country): United States
- Location: Kentucky
Re: Another one (last one) bites the dust :(
Hey, it was rude of me to assume that you hadn't cycled the tank. I got what I deserved.
It could be a baby common pleco. They're the kind most commonly sold in stores for "small freshwater community tanks." Just do a double-check on that one.
It could be a baby common pleco. They're the kind most commonly sold in stores for "small freshwater community tanks." Just do a double-check on that one.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!