greyish spots on my GSP
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
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3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
greyish spots on my GSP
i'm new to this forum and was wondering if i can get some help. I recently just picked up two puffers from the aquarium Concepts(local pet stores). i got a figure-8 puffer and a GSP. when i picked out the puffer at the store they both looked fine but when i was putting the GSP into my tank i notice that the belly area of the puffer was grayish. so i did some research around the internet and some were saying they PH level might be wrong. I tested the waters and all the levels are right. My tank is a brackish tank and all my other fishes are fine. the figure-8 puffer is fine and i don't see any gray spots. after a few hours i notice that the the gray spots went away and the GSP looks prefectly fine. The gray spots seems to come back every now n then and i was wondering if this is normal? or should i be concern? whats causing it?
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: greyish spots on my GSP
The gray belly is a sign of stress. We'll help you fix it.
For starters, can you answer some questions?
-Tank size?
-Specific gravity?
-Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate?
-How long has the tank been running, and when did you add the puffers?
-How many/what kids of other fish are there?
Don't worry about pH. pH isn't going to bother your fish one little bit.
Now, here's some reading for you to do:
library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
library/puffers-in-focus/fig8/
For starters, can you answer some questions?
-Tank size?
-Specific gravity?
-Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate?
-How long has the tank been running, and when did you add the puffers?
-How many/what kids of other fish are there?
Don't worry about pH. pH isn't going to bother your fish one little bit.
Now, here's some reading for you to do:
library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
library/puffers-in-focus/fig8/
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
Re: greyish spots on my GSP
For starters, can you answer some questions?
-Tank size? 14gal biocube
-Specific gravity? 1.012
-Ammonia - i don't have a tester but the LPS said it was ok, nitrite - 0, nitrate - 0?
-How long has the tank been running, and when did you add the puffers? tank's been cycling since Jan 2, and i added the puffers jan 23
-How many/what kids of other fish are there? the figrue-8 puffer, the GSP and two tiny guppies
-Tank size? 14gal biocube
-Specific gravity? 1.012
-Ammonia - i don't have a tester but the LPS said it was ok, nitrite - 0, nitrate - 0?
-How long has the tank been running, and when did you add the puffers? tank's been cycling since Jan 2, and i added the puffers jan 23
-How many/what kids of other fish are there? the figrue-8 puffer, the GSP and two tiny guppies
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busybones
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Re: greyish spots on my GSP
Welcome to the forum urples!
Dark spots can be a sign of stress but also a indication of mood. I'll be moving your post to the hospital section so people will know you are needing help.
Dark spots can be a sign of stress but also a indication of mood. I'll be moving your post to the hospital section so people will know you are needing help.
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LilGreenPuffer
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- Location: Kentucky
Re: greyish spots on my GSP
What have you been cycling the tank with? Did you only add the guppies? (Guppies aren't going to like all that salt, by the way.) Since you have no nitrate, your tank is almost certainly uncycled. You need to get your own liquid test kits - I like the API master kit. Read this article and both of the articles I linked you to.
library/water-filtration/emergencycycle/
library/water-filtration/emergencycycle/
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
Re: greyish spots on my GSP
Your water parameters -
pH -7.8
Ammonia - not sure but the LPS said it was ok, whatever that means
Nitrite - 0
Nitrates - 0
SG - 1.012
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants.
14gal Biocube
figure-8 puffer
green spotted puffer
two little guppies
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank
blood worms
snails
Instant ocean sea salt
Marineland PRenium activated carbon
top fin bacteria supplements
water change 2-3 weeks
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so.
haven't really made any changes recently besides add the two puffers
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? started cycling the tank jan 2
pH -7.8
Ammonia - not sure but the LPS said it was ok, whatever that means
Nitrite - 0
Nitrates - 0
SG - 1.012
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants.
14gal Biocube
figure-8 puffer
green spotted puffer
two little guppies
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank
blood worms
snails
Instant ocean sea salt
Marineland PRenium activated carbon
top fin bacteria supplements
water change 2-3 weeks
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so.
haven't really made any changes recently besides add the two puffers
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? started cycling the tank jan 2
Re: greyish spots on my GSP
i just got one of those quick dip tester. i'm jsut going by what the color chart says
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busybones
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(1)T.nigroviridis-GSP~ 55 gal - Location (country): USA
- Location: Kentucky
Re: greyish spots on my GSP
You get that answer a lot from the LFS "it's OK" well you need exact numbers. Some of them don't always keep their fish in the best conditions.
If your Nitrates are truly 0..your tank isn't cycled! Please read the following article to help you along your way. If you have any questions that aren't answered in the article feel free to ask away
library/water-filtration/emergencycycle/
Your tank is too small for the fish you have in there...GSP- 30 gallons each and F8s need 15 gallons each. You can maintain them in this tank for only a short while and that's with you doing large water changes very often.
GSP
ug.php/v/PufferPedia/Brackish/T_Nigroviridis/
F8
ug.php/v/PufferPedia/Brackish/T_Biocellatus/
Also be aware that these fish aren't exactly compatible as far as water conditions and aggression levels go. GSP "tend" to be more aggressive than the F8s. They also require different SGs. The GSP is high end BW and the F8 is Low end BW.
You will also want to add more to their diet. Here are some great options for you.
library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/
I know it's a lot of reading but it will help you out so so much, these can be difficult fish to keep and they require tons of work..but they are worth every bit of it
If your Nitrates are truly 0..your tank isn't cycled! Please read the following article to help you along your way. If you have any questions that aren't answered in the article feel free to ask away
library/water-filtration/emergencycycle/
Your tank is too small for the fish you have in there...GSP- 30 gallons each and F8s need 15 gallons each. You can maintain them in this tank for only a short while and that's with you doing large water changes very often.
GSP
ug.php/v/PufferPedia/Brackish/T_Nigroviridis/
F8
ug.php/v/PufferPedia/Brackish/T_Biocellatus/
Also be aware that these fish aren't exactly compatible as far as water conditions and aggression levels go. GSP "tend" to be more aggressive than the F8s. They also require different SGs. The GSP is high end BW and the F8 is Low end BW.
You will also want to add more to their diet. Here are some great options for you.
library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/
I know it's a lot of reading but it will help you out so so much, these can be difficult fish to keep and they require tons of work..but they are worth every bit of it
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busybones
- Fahaka Puffer
- Posts: 738
- Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:46 pm
- Gender: Female
- My Puffers: ******
(1)T. lineatus-Fahaka~Pookie 125 gal
(1)M. turgidus- Brown Puffer~Rowdy 30 gal
(1)T.nigroviridis-GSP~ 55 gal - Location (country): USA
- Location: Kentucky
Re: greyish spots on my GSP
The strip tests are very inaccurate and misleading. It would be best if you could get the liquid tests. (I use the API brand).
Re: greyish spots on my GSP
kk i'll do some reading. i'll also borrow my friends liquid tester to get the levels.