Protozoan Parasites
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Puffur
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Protozoan Parasites
anyone know any good, recommended products that cure protozoan parasites? thanks in advance
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SammyDee
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
Recommended by my LFS (as if that means anything..lol) "AQUARI_SOL" A mild ick and protozoan preventative. Worked well for me. Little drops you can use alot for medicating or a few to prevent outbreaks.
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
Before you add any meds, how do you know your fish has these?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Puffur
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
I know because my fish died without any outer symptoms of other diseases and also because my fish rarely eats and when it does it would spit it back out.
My LFS also said it is protozoan parasites and i'm positive that my LFS is reliable and knows what their doing.
And..thank you SammyDee for your reply. I'll go check it out.
My LFS also said it is protozoan parasites and i'm positive that my LFS is reliable and knows what their doing.
And..thank you SammyDee for your reply. I'll go check it out.
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
I highly snuggest against medicating for something you have no proof of. Puffers are VERY sensitive to meds, especially copper, which AQUARI_SOL contains. Please answer the Qs above in red.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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SammyDee
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
Yes I do agree with PP Water parameters need to be in check first. Most the time its that, b4 anything else. And as always its better without meds so the fish can have their immune system be stronger and basically immune to the symptoms. I think that all fish eventually have something even if it shows no sign. Its like herpes hitchhiking and waiting to pop up and kill the one's that cant handle it b/c of its weaker immune system>
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Puffur
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
Um.. this is not what I'm asking? Please stay on topic and don't give me suggestions when I didn't ask for them. Also, I never said i was treating puffers. Don't make any assumptions. thank you. And.. I'm not a newbie at caring for fish..my water parameters are perfect, no toxic ammonia, nitrite, nitrates.Pufferpunk wrote:I highly snuggest against medicating for something you have no proof of. Puffers are VERY sensitive to meds, especially copper, which AQUARI_SOL contains. Please answer the Qs above in red.
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
Puffur wrote:Um.. this is not what I'm asking? Please stay on topic and don't give me suggestions when I didn't ask for them. Also, I never said i was treating puffers. Don't make any assumptions. thank you. And.. I'm not a newbie at caring for fish..my water parameters are perfect, no toxic ammonia, nitrite, nitrates.Pufferpunk wrote:I highly snuggest against medicating for something you have no proof of. Puffers are VERY sensitive to meds, especially copper, which AQUARI_SOL contains. Please answer the Qs above in red.
Not to be rude but one can only assume you are treating puffers when you post a topic in the basic puffer care and info (hospital) section....on the Puffer forum...PP was only letting you know the dangers associated with treating scaleless fish with harsh medications. You seem quite sharp-tongued for someone asking for help.
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
If I remember correctly, I may have moved this to the Hospital section a few days ago, since inquiries on meds & disease treatment belong here.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
If that is the case I do apologize. If you still need help Puffur, please let us know what fish you are treating so we can better help you with your search. It's irresponsible to recommend a type of treatment without knowing what kind of fish you are going to be using it on.Pufferpunk wrote:If I remember correctly, I may have moved this to the Hospital section a few days ago, since inquiries on meds & disease treatment belong here.
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
I was simply looking for products to treat protozoan disease... I'll make my posts more clearly in the future. I'm looking to treat my halfmoon betta.
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busybones
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
In the case of the Betta I'll agree with Sammydee on the AQUARI_SOL (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... catid=4720) ..it is mild and I've seen good results from it. I'll also recommend trying Protozin (http://www.waterlife.co.uk/waterlife/protozin.htm) as it is a mild treatment also...If you can find it..I've had problems locating it in the past but you'll find it comes highly recommended by others as well..
I'm sorry for the above confusion and hope your Betta gets better soon...
I'm sorry for the above confusion and hope your Betta gets better soon...
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
I think Aquarium Solution's Metro+ (metronidazole) is used for protozoan wasting disease, too.
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Puffur
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Re: Protozoan Parasites
Thanks for all replies. My betta is looking better after a couple of days already ^_____^