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BeeBoo Is Not Well!
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
well, today's report is a few steps in the right direction! 
with the congo puffers, don't give up on the earthworms
"lurkers" generally like them, and they are typical of the food that they might encounter in nature, being bottom dwellers
they may not recognize them as food yet
a little garlic extract might encourage them also
"ollie" loves earthworms!
with the congo puffers, don't give up on the earthworms
"lurkers" generally like them, and they are typical of the food that they might encounter in nature, being bottom dwellers
they may not recognize them as food yet
a little garlic extract might encourage them also
"ollie" loves earthworms! "I plan ahead. That way, I don't have to do anything right now!"
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
My Congo would eat 3 at a time (just so you know lurkers do eat them). I'd be feeding those endlers, just in case he is eating them.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
Oh I always feed my Endlers. Just because they are intended as food for my piscivores I don't stop taking care of them. I don't know if it makes any difference or not, but the tank I get my Endlers out of now has a UV clarifier on it. Not sure if that helps the fish or the water, it's something our newest filter has on it, but I didn't buy the filter for that, I got the filter for the ability for it to handle the big tank it's in.
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
Well, the UV will help guarantee parasite-free fish (at least external ones). I was more referring to gut-loading them for your puffer's enhancement. 
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
Get yourself a female and a couple of males .... and that's it, you are on your way to having more guppies than you can shake a stick at! If I didn't have fish to eat them, they would over-run my tank. I used to have them in with my Cutcutia, but they actually were over-taking the food and the poor Cutcutia puffer wasn't getting much, so I moved them to my community tank, and they are just breeding up a storm now!L!$A wrote:How do you breed your Endlers Suzanne?
PP: Can you give me some good ideas of what to feed the Endlers that would enhance my piscivore puffers upon eating them? Right now I only feed them bloodworm and flake food.
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
You might want to add algae flakes, so your puffers get their veggies or soak the bloodworms in vitamins.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
I saw a post on a different thread saying that feeding vitamins to shrimp/feeder fish was a bit pointless, since they digest the vitamins and break them down before it can really go to the puffer? I think Dadof4 posted it (not to put words in his mouth!!) I need to go find where I found it...Pufferpunk wrote:You might want to add algae flakes, so your puffers get their veggies or soak the bloodworms in vitamins.
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
I actually remember something about that too .....
Well I already soak my bloodworms in vitamins, but will have to see about getting some algae flakes. The food I feed my Endlers (and my other community fish are the Tetra Colour bits (they are a bit more than flakes, but on the same idea).
Well I already soak my bloodworms in vitamins, but will have to see about getting some algae flakes. The food I feed my Endlers (and my other community fish are the Tetra Colour bits (they are a bit more than flakes, but on the same idea).
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
Get well BeeBoo!
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
You're still feeding them healthier fish! You can always gut-load them right before you feed them out.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
I went and got more earthworms today, a big tub, and I had such a fun time watching the puffers and mudskippers eating them.
My little suvatii ate 2 of them, sucked them right down, and even my Baileyi ate 3 of them. So yes, it does appear that the lurkers do like them, however .... still can't get either of my Congo's to eat them, nor my Palembang. The Cutcutia's don't seem very keen on them either, but my Ceylon's absolutely love them!
So I guess earthworms are going to be on the menu regularly now.
I'm going to try to find those Jungle fizz tabs tomorrow and see about soaking the worms in them so to possibly help BeeBoo. His colouring is still not looking right, but he's having more normal poops now. I just want him to be okay, and I'm afraid if I assume that he is alright, and he isn't, that he will end up dying as my other suvattii did.
My little suvatii ate 2 of them, sucked them right down, and even my Baileyi ate 3 of them. So yes, it does appear that the lurkers do like them, however .... still can't get either of my Congo's to eat them, nor my Palembang. The Cutcutia's don't seem very keen on them either, but my Ceylon's absolutely love them!
So I guess earthworms are going to be on the menu regularly now.
I'm going to try to find those Jungle fizz tabs tomorrow and see about soaking the worms in them so to possibly help BeeBoo. His colouring is still not looking right, but he's having more normal poops now. I just want him to be okay, and I'm afraid if I assume that he is alright, and he isn't, that he will end up dying as my other suvattii did.
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
Add flakes or crushed F-D plankton into the worm's tub to gut-load them.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: BeeBoo Is Not Well!
You could gut-load them with antiparasite food. They sell pellets over here.
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