Urgent help - Abei dying
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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pufferpuggirl
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
I really hope that your Abei makes a full recovery and is doing better today!
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
Good news is he's still with us 
, bad news is he doesn't seem to be getting much better 
. He did a massive poo this morning and seemed fairly perky for a bit as well, swimming around reasonably normally although a bit clumsier than he would if he was healthy. He still looks huge though, very bloated.
Did another 90% change this evening. Probably going to go for 2 smaller changes a day from now 50% am and 50% pm and see if that makes much difference.
, bad news is he doesn't seem to be getting much better . He did a massive poo this morning and seemed fairly perky for a bit as well, swimming around reasonably normally although a bit clumsier than he would if he was healthy. He still looks huge though, very bloated.Did another 90% change this evening. Probably going to go for 2 smaller changes a day from now 50% am and 50% pm and see if that makes much difference.
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
Completely normal, orangey sort of colour 
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
Could he be constipated? You said he took a huge poo, maybe he still has a lot more he needs to expel? You could try some Epsom salt, I beleive it's one tablespoon per 5 gallons. I don't believe it will have a negative effect on him even if it turns out he is not constipated, but don't hold me to that.
Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
I'm not sure what's going on, he's normal size this morning 
and looks fine (not seen him swim yet) can't find anything in the tank
and looks fine (not seen him swim yet) can't find anything in the tank-
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
Still wouldn't hurt to treat with Epsom salt--1 tbsp/10g for now.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
Where can I get epsom salt from? (it's not the same as aquarium salt is it?)
On a closer look he's still looking a little fatter than normal
On a closer look he's still looking a little fatter than normal
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
Any drug store should have it.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
It's different from aquarium salt. Humans use it for constipation, sore muscles, and infections. Be sure not to get the kind for bathing that's scented, colored, etc. - get the kind that's for medicinal purposes.
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
I wouldn't think "orange" poo would be normal .... brown would be a good colour for a healthy puffer.
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
My rescue bettas, even the ones in good health, all have orange poo. I think that the color varies according to diet. I've heard of a puffer on here having red poo after bloodworms.
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
Oh, I've ever only seen white poo and pink poo, which I think are both signs of illness .... I thought brown was the colour of health. But once again, I learn something different. 
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
Orange is definitely his normal colour, but as mentioned it does depend a bit what he's been eating (raw prawns tend to give it an orange colour).
Good news to report, he's back to normal and very active again - a bit pissed at me for changing the tank water again this evening but he's definitely back to normal
I think he's hungry but gonna hold off feeding him until the morning.
Gonna get some epsom salt at the weekend & add some liquid tests to replace the strips so I can get more accurate readings in the future.
Good news to report, he's back to normal and very active again - a bit pissed at me for changing the tank water again this evening but he's definitely back to normal
I think he's hungry but gonna hold off feeding him until the morning.
Gonna get some epsom salt at the weekend & add some liquid tests to replace the strips so I can get more accurate readings in the future.
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Re: Urgent help - Abei dying
Good to hear your efforts did not go to waste!
Hopefully Abei stays healthy!
Hopefully Abei stays healthy!
