ill figure of 8 ???? help asap
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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ashgriffiths
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ill figure of 8 ???? help asap
my figure of 8 is ill has stopped eating today got very thin now has lost his balance not like swim bladder just very weak keeps hitting the filter, gills look slighty red. water paramaters fine treated with melafix anyone got any ideas my other of figure of 8 is fine
Re: ill figure of 8 ???? help asap
It would help if you post all the answers to the questions above in red. Just off the top of my head has your figure 8 been dewormed???
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ashgriffiths
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Re: ill figure of 8 ???? help asap
no have not dewormed him how wud u go about doing that. sorry has been set up for like 4 months do weekly water changes daily feeds just one other figure of 8 water is spot on all 0
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Re: ill figure of 8 ???? help asap
Can you please answer ALL of the questions? That would help a ton. Please tell us more about their diet, how much water you change, the exact numbers you got from your test readings, etc.
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ashgriffiths
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Re: ill figure of 8 ???? help asap
ok fine ! dont know the ph never tested it, ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate between 0 and 10 salinity 1.012
tank siz 70 litres uk 2 x figure of 8's
water change weekly between 20 and 30 percent
added melafix today
feed on brineshrimp and omega 3 , garlic , bloodworm, small plant snails and small pond snails, and mysis shrimp and small cut up bits of prawn occasionally
no changes made to tank
aquarium has been set up for 3 to 4 months
cycled it to . o well not to worry has had a fit and died cheers for ur help...
tank siz 70 litres uk 2 x figure of 8's
water change weekly between 20 and 30 percent
added melafix today
feed on brineshrimp and omega 3 , garlic , bloodworm, small plant snails and small pond snails, and mysis shrimp and small cut up bits of prawn occasionally
no changes made to tank
aquarium has been set up for 3 to 4 months
cycled it to . o well not to worry has had a fit and died cheers for ur help...
Re: ill figure of 8 ???? help asap
Oh ashgriffiths so sorry 
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Water and everything seems fine. I would keep an eye on the other guy make sure to check his/her poop for any signs of internal parasites. Stringy white poo, eating and getting thin quickly, these are both signs of IP's and most fish do need to be treated for this.
. Water and everything seems fine. I would keep an eye on the other guy make sure to check his/her poop for any signs of internal parasites. Stringy white poo, eating and getting thin quickly, these are both signs of IP's and most fish do need to be treated for this.
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ashgriffiths
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Re: ill figure of 8 ???? help asap
ok cheers will do sounds like it may of been a worm will treat my other figure of 8 for worms and my older gsp just in case
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: ill figure of 8 ???? help asap
The salinity is a lot higher than normal for F8s. The usual range is 1.005-1.008.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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Re: ill figure of 8 ???? help asap
My F8 just died this week with similar symptoms. I'll find the thread for you.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19878
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19878
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Re: ill figure of 8 ???? help asap
sorry for your loss. I'm glad you didn't wait for my PM, I've been out all day. There is an article on treating IPs in our Library.
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