I read the article on it here and it was very helpful. Before I began the hypo salinity treatment I wanted to run my intentions by you guys to make sure it was right.
First off, the fish sometimes has the spots and sometimes doesnt have many or at all. Looks like freshwater ich to me, I have never seen marine ich before.
Ok, this is a 1 inch porcupine puffer fish in a 20 gallon while the 120 is cycling.
The tank has sand, live rock and a hermit crab.
I am of course going to take the live rock out and put it in the 120. All the ich will die by the time it is cycled anyway. The hermit crab will be removed too.
My question was, can I leave the sand and existing filter in while I hypo the tank or no? I dont care if the sand 'dies'.
Marine Ich
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Marine Ich
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Re: Marine Ich
Oh ok, I see it says no substrate. I am scared though, Half salinity, I dont want it to die from that 
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Re: Marine Ich
It won't die from half salinity. 
The filter's beneficial bacteria would die, so I see no point in leaving it in.
The filter is just for now, in the quarantine, right? Later you'll just want a skimmer.
The filter's beneficial bacteria would die, so I see no point in leaving it in.
The filter is just for now, in the quarantine, right? Later you'll just want a skimmer.
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Re: Marine Ich
Yes the filter is just for the temp tank. I have a skimmer on the big tank and have been doing weekly 25 percent changes in the temp tank, the water has kept excellent parameters.
My question is this and maybe I missed it in the article. Do I just turn it into .1009 in ten minutes, or do I have to stage it and slowly decrease it so the fish can adjust?
I am just confused because one day it will have white dots on it and then the next day it will have one or two.
It had quite a few last night, i gave it some garlic soaked shrimp and mealworm and then this morning I see just a few. I think this may be normal though as they fall off and attatch etc etc etc.
Once I get my answer about how fast to turn it hypo I am gonna go for it
My question is this and maybe I missed it in the article. Do I just turn it into .1009 in ten minutes, or do I have to stage it and slowly decrease it so the fish can adjust?
I am just confused because one day it will have white dots on it and then the next day it will have one or two.
It had quite a few last night, i gave it some garlic soaked shrimp and mealworm and then this morning I see just a few. I think this may be normal though as they fall off and attatch etc etc etc.
Once I get my answer about how fast to turn it hypo I am gonna go for it
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Re: Marine Ich
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Marine Ich
Thank you.
It is really puzzling me. When I left it looked very clear skinned and when I returned it looked like it had been salted! All within 8 hours. Anything else it could be?
It is still very active and vigorous. Eats like a champ, feces has really improved since the first ones when I got it.
It is really puzzling me. When I left it looked very clear skinned and when I returned it looked like it had been salted! All within 8 hours. Anything else it could be?
It is still very active and vigorous. Eats like a champ, feces has really improved since the first ones when I got it.
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Re: Marine Ich
It happened overnight for me - really fast! Evening, he looked great; morning, he looked like he'd been shaken around in the saltshaker.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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Re: Marine Ich
I read about a corner sponge filters.
I have one of these lying around
http://www.school-of-tropical-fish.com/ ... Filter.jpg
I could fill it with sponger or floss and actually have access to some .009/.010 filter media from another tank I could add.
I have one of these lying around
http://www.school-of-tropical-fish.com/ ... Filter.jpg
I could fill it with sponger or floss and actually have access to some .009/.010 filter media from another tank I could add.
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Re: Marine Ich
Cool! I know with your loving care, this puffer's gonna be just fine. 
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Marine Ich
I hope so. He seems very vigorous and unaffected in his actions. Any word on if my filter box will be good enough of a sponge filter?
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Re: Marine Ich
Sure will.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Marine Ich
Ok, everything is out of the tank, except heater and the filter box.
What can I do to the sand so I can reuse it as it is pretty nice. Im assuming Ich cannot tolerate very very hot water and then being dried out.
What can I do to the sand so I can reuse it as it is pretty nice. Im assuming Ich cannot tolerate very very hot water and then being dried out.
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Re: Marine Ich
I spoke with the place I bought him at and they said they had an ick outbreak several days after I purchased him and said that i could exchange him now or bring him back if he dies. Grim.. but I dont want to exchange him so he can sit in the chemical treatment they said they use and die because he is a puff.
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Re: Marine Ich
Ok, little update.
I am halfway to the salinity that the hypo treatment calls for.
The fish seems a little better, it is enjoying playing with the bubbles the corner filter is making
I am halfway to the salinity that the hypo treatment calls for.
The fish seems a little better, it is enjoying playing with the bubbles the corner filter is making
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Re: Marine Ich
Glad it's going well & you decided to keep him. Can't you put the sand into the display tank?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"