I have two different size SAP's that need their teeth trimmed. I have searched the forum and read all I could find.
The range I have found is 50mg to 85mg per gallon. Does anyone who has done this before know what the best and safest dose would be? Also I have a 1" and a 2.5" fish should the dose be lower for the smaller one? I don't have one of the spoons from a salifert test kit, I have read a lot of people here use those.
Finquel Dosage Question
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Finquel Dosage Question
Does it help to know that it takes 5 of those lil Salifert spoons to make 1/4 tsp?
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Re: Finquel Dosage Question
The dose is 30-50mg per litre. This works out at 0.03grams - 0.05grams per lit. Yep, its a tiny tiny amount to measure out! I think there is a fairly high margin for error though.diver wrote:I have two different size SAP's that need their teeth trimmed. I have searched the forum and read all I could find.
The range I have found is 50mg to 85mg per gallon. Does anyone who has done this before know what the best and safest dose would be? Also I have a 1" and a 2.5" fish should the dose be lower for the smaller one? I don't have one of the spoons from a salifert test kit, I have read a lot of people here use those.
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Re: Finquel Dosage Question
Yeah, a small pinch should do it.
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Re: Finquel Dosage Question
Thanks for the info.
So a liter would be around 4.25 cups of water with 0.03grams - 0.05grams right?
So a liter would be around 4.25 cups of water with 0.03grams - 0.05grams right?
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Re: Finquel Dosage Question
Sounds about right. I had some very accurate scales when I used it, but resorted to just flicking a bit more of the powder in as required! Not very scientific I know - more of an art, I think!
Re: Finquel Dosage Question
Well, I used .04grams and the bigger puffer did not become completely sedated but was enough to turn him over and clip his teeth. But the smaller one stayed way to active and when I tried to flip him over he would just turn right back over. I left him in for 15mins, and then moved him to the recovery container. I didn't want to add more and risk it.
So I was just looking for input on how much would be safe for a 1inch puffer?
So I was just looking for input on how much would be safe for a 1inch puffer?
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Re: Finquel Dosage Question
I don't think anyone could say how much would be "safe" for any sized fish. I would start at the advised dose & just add a tiny bit more until the desired level of sedation is achieved.