Blind Mbu?
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Lil' Swimz$
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Re: Blind Mbu?
So sorry Phledge. I have a puffer burried outside, next to a tree. You make a good point there...
Ha ha, he he! DAncE whEn yoU're HAPpppy! He he he! DAnce, danCE, DANCe!
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Myaj
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Re: Blind Mbu?
I wouldn't worry about the toxins, go ahead and bury it or if you feel better wrap it up in several sealed ziploc bags before throwing it in the garbage. There's a theory anyways that puffers in captivity lose a lot of their toxicity, that the wild ones maintain it from something in their natural diet.
I'm sorry you lost him, Mbu's are one heck of a special species of fish.
For what its worth with carbon.. its only really active for a few days anyways so unless you were adding a new packet ever 2-3 days it wasn't doing much. Carbon is pretty much one of those mostly useless money making schemes the big companies like to use.. granted it does have its uses, like removing medications, etc, but since it has a very limited active time once the package is opened, its pointless to put a new package in periodically. In fact, doing so can hurt your biofilter, since the carbon makes a great home for bacteria.. when you throw out the cartridge and put in a new one, you're throwing out all that nitrificating bacteria that was living in the old one.
I'm sorry you lost him, Mbu's are one heck of a special species of fish.
For what its worth with carbon.. its only really active for a few days anyways so unless you were adding a new packet ever 2-3 days it wasn't doing much. Carbon is pretty much one of those mostly useless money making schemes the big companies like to use.. granted it does have its uses, like removing medications, etc, but since it has a very limited active time once the package is opened, its pointless to put a new package in periodically. In fact, doing so can hurt your biofilter, since the carbon makes a great home for bacteria.. when you throw out the cartridge and put in a new one, you're throwing out all that nitrificating bacteria that was living in the old one.
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Dadof4
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Re: Blind Mbu?
Shoot, sorry about your loss of such a beautiful fish.
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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Bluntokian
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Re: Blind Mbu?
Now as an air filter. Nothing better than carbon. Can remove any smell you throw at it. Anyway, Extremely sorry about your loss.Myaj wrote: Carbon is pretty much one of those mostly useless money making schemes the big companies like to use.. granted it does have its uses.
Heres to you and heres to me, In hopes we never disagree, But if we do, Spit on you and heres to me.
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flash.dan
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Re: Blind Mbu?
jesus ever so sorry one hell of a fish to loose..... I know lost my cutiepie a few months ago to a brain hemerage. keep on in there i was goign to quit after she died ended up buying a baby mbu last week currently in a 4x2 hes only 1.5" but ill have a 600 gal in my new living room (moving hosue 3 weeks) by jan time