Alright, I have a 40 gallon tank with 6 dwarf puffers in there. 3 of them have sunken stomachs so I'm going to treat them all for internal parasites.
I just went out and bought parasite clear. I just want to double make sure with everyone if my method is correct:
I dose 4 tabs (premixed in a cup) since I have 40 gallons, then I pour it into the 40 gallon. Then I wait 2 days later, I do a 75% water change? The package says 25% but some people on this forum like Nick says 50-75%? I then add another 4 tabs (again premixed) into the water again and two days later do a water change and thats it right?
Also, I also recall an advice telling me to turn off the filter for 1-2 hours after dosing? Do I need to? No carbon in my filter.
Parasite Clear Quick Confirmation Question
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Re: Parasite Clear Quick Confirmation Question
Also, for the ones that are not infected, adding the dose won't hurt or weaken them right? Just double checking.
I just want to dose the whole thing just incase.
I just want to dose the whole thing just incase.
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Re: Parasite Clear Quick Confirmation Question
If you don't have any carbon than leave it on. The reason why they tell you to turn it off as carbon will soak op the chemicals.
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Re: Parasite Clear Quick Confirmation Question
You can, and should, treat the fish that appear unaffected. Even if they don't show signs of it, if they're living with wormy fish, then there is a very high chance that they'll have picked up some worms as well.
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Re: Parasite Clear Quick Confirmation Question
Okay, thanks.
Is this the right dosage method though:
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Is this the right dosage method though:
I dose 4 tabs (premixed in a cup) since I have 40 gallons, then I pour it into the 40 gallon. Then I wait 2 days later, I do a 75% water change? The package says 25% but some people on this forum like Nick says 50-75%? I then add another 4 tabs (again premixed) into the water again and two days later do a water change and thats it right?
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Mmmhmmm.
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Re: Parasite Clear Quick Confirmation Question
Actually, internal parasites should be treated internally. Soak their food in the med & feeed 2x/day for a week, with the medicated food.
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Re: Parasite Clear Quick Confirmation Question
Oh, what about that other question before I dose:
Will this harm or weaken my other puffers that might be healthy? They are pretty small baby sized dwarf puffers.
Oh yeah, after feeding, I noticed that a lot of them have a fat belly but eventually in an hour, they go back looking just round again and lose the bulge in their stomach area. That's okay right? I just have to worry about them getting thin, sunken stomachs again?
I think the majority of them were just hungry, but I think maybe one or two have IPs? A lot of them look good now.
Will this harm or weaken my other puffers that might be healthy? They are pretty small baby sized dwarf puffers.
Oh yeah, after feeding, I noticed that a lot of them have a fat belly but eventually in an hour, they go back looking just round again and lose the bulge in their stomach area. That's okay right? I just have to worry about them getting thin, sunken stomachs again?
I think the majority of them were just hungry, but I think maybe one or two have IPs? A lot of them look good now.
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Re: Parasite Clear Quick Confirmation Question
All the fish have been living together, leaving them all open to transfer the parasite to each other.
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Re: Parasite Clear Quick Confirmation Question
So, what about the question?Will this harm or weaken my other puffers that might be healthy? They are pretty small baby sized dwarf puffers.
Guess I should just dose the whole tank then right?
I just want to make sure because I think 5 out of 6 puffer looks great, I don't want to risk harming or killing 5 others in order to save one.
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Re: Parasite Clear Quick Confirmation Question
It is perfectly fine to treat a healthy puffer for IPs, expecially since there is a good chance they might be infected.
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Re: Parasite Clear Quick Confirmation Question
As Pufferpunk said before, its generally better and more effective to treat the food, not the water.
With any fish that has IP's, you run a risk of them getting sick or dying when you deworm them. If they have a very high load of parasites, and the dewormer kills them, the die off might poison the fish's system. Usually they do just fine, and the fish that die from the treatment were very likely so far gone they wouldn't have survived anyways (just slowly starved to death), so IMO its better to treat than just wait and see.
Bellies getting sunken an hour after eating is a good sign of IP's.. generally they should stay nicely rounded for quite some time.
With any fish that has IP's, you run a risk of them getting sick or dying when you deworm them. If they have a very high load of parasites, and the dewormer kills them, the die off might poison the fish's system. Usually they do just fine, and the fish that die from the treatment were very likely so far gone they wouldn't have survived anyways (just slowly starved to death), so IMO its better to treat than just wait and see.
Bellies getting sunken an hour after eating is a good sign of IP's.. generally they should stay nicely rounded for quite some time.
