:( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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:( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
Sorry to hear you're having more trouble. Is it actually a worm? Or perhaps a bit of fin coming away? A pic would be good, but I know how difficult it is to get a good one.
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
yep its defo a worm. since i got them, pady has always had like a white spot thing on his fin...cos its always been there, iassumed it was just an individual mark thing if that makes sense? but 2day that has become a worm
small n white n this, kinda like a tiny piece of white thread twisted up
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
i couldnt get a pic, but theres a short vid here, not best quality but ya can see it!! can see his spots aswell
http://www7.zippyshare.com/v/83416431/file.html
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
Can see a white area in the clip, but nothing in detail - they really are the worst fish to photograph! I have heard of something in the past called anchor worms, but I'm afraid I have no experience of them, so could not really advise on the seriousness of them or what to use to treat. Hopefully there will be someone along soon, who can help.
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
thanks for having a look anyways
yeh, they are very hard 2 photograph lol!
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
Can you try & pull it off?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
Pufferpunk wrote:Can you try & pull it off?
i did try just now, but hes so wriggly man!! is it ok 2 hold him with 1 hand 2 keep him a bit still?
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
You want to get your temperature at least to 86F, that's when the whitespot/ich stops reproducing and if you can get it safely to 89.5F, it will actually kill the parasite. Try your best, I've had to put my SAP's in temps that high, but make sure you also have an airstone going because it's hard for them to breathe in higher temperatures, there's less oxygen.
SAP's get stressed and then they actually cause themselves to have more whitespot and yours probably freaked out when you pulled the worm off.
SAP's get stressed and then they actually cause themselves to have more whitespot and yours probably freaked out when you pulled the worm off.
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
that is probs what happened, cos they dont seem quite so bad now
am turning the temp up a bit higher
thanks for help again!
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
Do you have an airstone going? Make sure to provide them with extra oxygen when turning up the temperature. I hope they get better, poor little SAP's. 
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
yep they got an airstone
might change it for a bigger 1 like. also have put another filter in, not really 2 filter but 2 put more air in for them for now. i hope he gets better aswell 
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
Another definite add along with raising the water temp is plain aquarium salt, 1 tablespoon per 5 gallons tank volume. This helps lyse the cells of the ich parasite and if there is a worm there it will have the same effect and help kill the worm.
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Re: :( yet more problems... 1 of my saps has got a worm thing
oo cheers for that dadof4!! ill go get some 2moro
