Hello, I'm new to this community, but hopefully someone has experience with this....
I just noticed today that my puffer developed what looks to be a air bubble on it's right side. I'm definitely concerned and wanted to see if anyone has any suggestions to help the little guy. What could cause this? Can it worsen?
As of now I haven't picked up a water testing kit, but I'm looking to get one this week when I get paid.
It's a fairly new 10 gallon aquarium, and I've had it for about 3 weeks. I set it up with a few plants a day before I got my first fishes.
I started the tank out with 3 zebra danio and a week later I got two puffers. The zebra fish were eating the puffers blood worms so I sectioned off the tank with an aquarium divider. I'm thinking a separate tank in the near future. I just cleaned the tank a week ago and added some freshwater. The tank has a florescent light, heater, plants, a tetra "Fits Whisper Power Filter" and a nice rock for the puffers to hide.
I feed the guys in the aquarium twice a day.
Kinda long, but this is the situation. Can someone help!
bubble on the side of my dwarf puffer, what do I do?
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4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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bubble on the side of my dwarf puffer, what do I do?
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Re: bubble on the side of my dwarf puffer, what do I do?
It could be the result of an un-cycled aquarium, or an ammonia spike. Not really possible to be sure of anything until you get your kit.
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Re: bubble on the side of my dwarf puffer, what do I do?
Thats what I'm thinking also. Would you recommend testing the water before I change it out again? I could take a water sample to the aquarium store down the street.Brent wrote:It could be the result of an un-cycled aquarium, or an ammonia spike. Not really possible to be sure of anything until you get your kit.
I'm also worried about hurting the little guy with the bubble by transporting him temporarily out of the aquarium while I change the water. Any suggestions before I do any of this?
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Re: bubble on the side of my dwarf puffer, what do I do?
It's safe to say if the tank is not cycled yet you can do many wc's without having to test the water. You do need to know the water parameters, so do that to. Sorry I have never heard of a bubble stuck other then what I see on my puffers which is normal. They get tiny bubbles that stick to them sometimes. From the pic it looks like a swelling. Not good. Don't know what you can do other then make sure you have no ammonia or nitrate in the tank. Leaving the dp's in the tank alone would be best for all the fish. Read all you can on cycling a tank. That will help with good fish health. Hopefully someone with more advice knows what to do about the swelling.
Leave the fish in the tank when you do a wc. Never net your puff out of the tank. It can cause them to fill up with air, then you would have to burp em.
Leave the fish in the tank when you do a wc. Never net your puff out of the tank. It can cause them to fill up with air, then you would have to burp em.
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Re: bubble on the side of my dwarf puffer, what do I do?
It looks like a tumor of some sort to me, but sometimes with things like this you just don't know until the fish dies and then only if you choose to do an autopsy. Is it clear? In some of the pictures it almost looks like a clear bubble under the skin, in others solid...
Does it move at all? Has it suddenly appeared or grown slowly? If it moves, there's a chance it is a nematode, which is basically a parasite that lives under the skin and is pretty nasty, pretty much impossible to get rid of without killing the fish.
Your best option is lots of clean water and low stress.. antibiotics might be something to try but I really am not too sure what to do here. Sometimes fish live for years with odd growths on them like this, other times they slowly waste away.
There's always a mild chance it could be tuberculosis, so while every good fishkeeper should do so, make sure you make an extra effort to remember to wash your hands and don't stick your hands in there with any open sores.
Does it move at all? Has it suddenly appeared or grown slowly? If it moves, there's a chance it is a nematode, which is basically a parasite that lives under the skin and is pretty nasty, pretty much impossible to get rid of without killing the fish.
Your best option is lots of clean water and low stress.. antibiotics might be something to try but I really am not too sure what to do here. Sometimes fish live for years with odd growths on them like this, other times they slowly waste away.
There's always a mild chance it could be tuberculosis, so while every good fishkeeper should do so, make sure you make an extra effort to remember to wash your hands and don't stick your hands in there with any open sores.
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Re: bubble on the side of my dwarf puffer, what do I do?
Thank you for all your suggestions. This morning I checked on my puffer and the bubble is gone! Hopefully it's nothing serious and will return. It looked like it was an air bubble that formed under a thin layer of skin on the puffer, not a tumor or nematode from the looks of it.
I think maintaining the water parameters is all I can really do to prevent a lot of problems for my fish in the future. I read up on cycling for a few hours last night so I'm going to make sure these guys can have a nice cycled tank.
I think maintaining the water parameters is all I can really do to prevent a lot of problems for my fish in the future. I read up on cycling for a few hours last night so I'm going to make sure these guys can have a nice cycled tank.
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Re: bubble on the side of my dwarf puffer, what do I do?
That's good to hear!
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