RIP Mistah Puff

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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Post by xautomaticflowersx »

T. miurus is a lovely puffer! Too big for my little tank though. I was happy keeping Mistah Puff in the smaller tank because he was at his maximum of 3 inches and wasn't active enough to require more space. I could keep on top of the water quality by performing large regular water changes so I was happy with the level of maintenance required to keep him healthy in a smaller tank. A six inch puffer is too big though I'm afraid :(. I'll stick with my plan for some 'normal' tropicals! It's been a while since I've kept anything other than goldfish and Mistah Puff, so it'll make a change! :)
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Post by lisalisa »

I'm sure you'll have fun!
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Post by Tihsho »

It's all good, fish over all are cool!

Mebe look into a pair of kribs, they have nice color, easy to breed, and have intresting habits.
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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Kribs are nice, but I prefer the way rams look. Plus kribs are that much more aggressive.
Haha... this is going to sound so anti-puffer! I was thinking of getting some little shrimp as well as a pair of rams to put in the tank as an algae/detritis crew. Mistah Puff would be turning in his grave at the thought of shrimp living in his house! :lol:
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haha for sure!
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Mebe look into cherry shrimp or bamboo shrimp. They accent tanks nicely!
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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Yeah I had been thinking of some cherry shrimp or some fire shrimp... nice n red! I'm hearing mixed reports about keeping shrimp with rams though. The species of ram I want to get is Microgeophagus ramirezi. Someone told me on another forum that he had some cherry shrimp and amano shrimp that were eaten by his bolivian rams (Microgeophagus altispinosus), but I'm pretty sure that the bolivians are more aggressive than ramirezi? *doesn't know what to do now*

Edit: I think I might join a cichlid forum to ask around there. Also I'll post a message on the 'Freshwater Tanks' section on here!
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I would look into a dwarf species of ram, I personally have only encountered blue dwarfs (sorry I don't know their scientific name.) The species does tend to hide out in drift wood or clusters of plants, but it is very docile.
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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Yeah I think that Microgeophagus ramirezi may be the blue dwarf but I'm not sure? I'm crap with common names, because a lot of the time several fish will have the same common name! At any rate, I'm now steering away from the idea of rams since they are pretty unpredictable with stuff like shrimp and they might mess up my nice Lilaeopsis carpet! lol... I have plenty of other options though, so I'll keep looking until I find the perfect match for Mistah Puff's tank. Maybe dwarf gourami or something like that!
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Mebe a stingray?
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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Gawd... my tank's way too itty bitty for a ray! Even a so-called 'teacup' ray.
It's only 24x8x8, so about 6.6 US gallons. I have good over-filtration (53gph so it's filtered 8 times per hour) and I'm on top of my water changes so I can be *slightly* lenient with stocking densities, but only slightly. After all a stocking 'guide' is just that.
I'd love to be in a position to keep a ray though... they are such friendly fish!
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I for some reason imagined the tank as 30 US gallons.

Sorry to hijack but just wanted to warn people on 'teacup rays.' Teacups should not be in circulation, they are just baby rays and usually do not do well in peoples tanks other then breeders. They usually are found in the stingray deathcurl the next morning.
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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Indeed... hence 'so-called'. There are some smaller species of ray, but none of them are teacup sized by any means. Hijacking was warranted there I think!
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Oh and I do have a 29 US gallon tank, but that's where my goldfish live ^_^
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Mebe its time for another tank!
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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