Puffer lockjaw?
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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ILuvMyGSP
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Re: Puffer lockjaw?
overnight with ups
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Re: Puffer lockjaw?
How was he packed?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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ILuvMyGSP
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Re: Puffer lockjaw?
he was double bagged in bags from the fish store, with an oxygen tablet. then he was in a tiny box, and that box went into a bigger box surrounded with packing peanuts. he was in there really tight. i think it was just the stress, i put a tiny bit of melafix in there with him to help the stress but i guess it didnt.
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Re: Puffer lockjaw?
Maybe he got chilled/overheated?
I'm so sorry about the little guy. It must have been so frustrating.
I'm so sorry about the little guy. It must have been so frustrating.
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ILuvMyGSP
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Re: Puffer lockjaw?
ugh now my other puffer has a small sore on his lip, im not sure whats going on... im putting melafix in there again, hes still eating. it almost looks like a burn from rubbing up and down the glass but im no expert.
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Re: Puffer lockjaw?
Check your heater? Could he be burning his lip when he's pacing? Wouldn't be a first to hear about a malfunctioning heater.
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ILuvMyGSP
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Re: Puffer lockjaw?
the temp in there is just fine, its between 80-82, is that too high? i even checked the levels they are all 0. not sure whats going on, ill keep using melafix tho until someone tells me to use something different! i guess i thought since i had a GSP as a teen and he lived FOREVER, these 2 would be fine, but my second time around isnt so easy. and the first time i had one, he lived in all freshwater, ate feeder fish, and didnt have a light. lol. i obviously had no clue what i was doing that young, but he had less issues than these last 2.
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Re: Puffer lockjaw?
Water temp is OK, I'm wondering how hot the heater its self is actually getting. Is it going on the fritz and getting extremely hot to get the temp to where you want it?
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Re: Puffer lockjaw?
It says in Pufferpedia that the temp should be between 73 & 80? Even if yours is 80, that is still high end of normal. Not that I know what problems that may cause - if any!ILuvMyGSP wrote:the temp in there is just fine, its between 80-82, is that too high? i even checked the levels they are all 0.
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ILuvMyGSP
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Re: Puffer lockjaw?
his mouth is a lot better from the melafix. how do i check the heater?
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Re: Puffer lockjaw?
With a thermometer.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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