Emergency Trapped air
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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lilacamy931
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Emergency Trapped air
Just feed the puffs as usual, they were extremely hungry. Princess lept the water and now I think she has air trapped as her tail end keeps pointing up and she cant break away from the surface, please help! She is so small I am afraid to try burping her, please pleas ehelp
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
Burp her. You won't hurt her. Net her carefully, hold her tail, grit your teeth, and do it. As long as you only hold her tail and the very base of her body, she'll be fine.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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lilacamy931
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
Trying at the moment, but the air bubble just keeps moving around where i'm stroking! Any ideas? 
She keeps floating upside down as well.
She keeps floating upside down as well.
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
I've never done this before, so I don't know. Anyone?
Until you figure out what to do, keep the area quiet and dimly lit, and avoid sudden movements. Hopefully, she won't wear herself out too badly or hurt herself trying to swim down, or even gulp more air.
Until you figure out what to do, keep the area quiet and dimly lit, and avoid sudden movements. Hopefully, she won't wear herself out too badly or hurt herself trying to swim down, or even gulp more air.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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lilacamy931
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
right...still air trapped, going to keep her in the net and keep attempting till think she is alright again.. thanks lilgreenpuffer, hope she makes it, if anyone else ideas on small puff burping plesae post, my parnter is keeping eye on thread for me.
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lilacamy931
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
I have to syay I really cant get the air out and worried that she is going to die of shock from me handling her..
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
Fingers are crossed for the two of you.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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lilacamy931
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
been trying for half an hour now...she is completely upside down, i am in tears.what is the complete humane way to put her down
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bigfatfish
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
Hopefully you have sorted out her air problem by now? The only way I have done the "burping" is by holding the fish by the base of the tail under water, with head facing up - & wiggle it. Has always worked for me.
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lilacamy931
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
No she is upside down and really scared now.
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
What about holding her vertically, tail-down, and tugging sharply downwards a couple of times?
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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bigfatfish
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
If you have tried the technique I suggested, & still no luck, yes, you could euth her. BUT, don't do it cos you are upset. I would feel inclined to put her somewhere away from currents etc, in the dark & just leave her quiet. Don't watch her if it upsets you, but give her a chance to right herself.
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lilacamy931
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
Dont worry just needed to know the options if it got to it. Still upside down it has been over an hour now. Tried leaving her alone for a little while, will keep trying. I am crying it does upset me but I really am going to try and save her. I will try that Lil green puffer
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
I hope you get this sorted ok hun. I know how upset you are and have given a few more suggestions elsewhere. I thought I may find anything new out on here, but see you've already looked.
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lilacamy931
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Re: Emergency Trapped air
thanks hun, you are being a rock. I going to take your other suggestion and leave her be to see if she can sort herself out.. her eyes dont move now though and only one fin moves.