Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
My Hall of Shame confession: I'm horrible about water tests! I only have one tube left (the others broke), so tests take forever, running up and down the hall to rinse the tube out in between, and I always forget how many drops I've added already, and I honestly hate doing them. I'm investing in some dip strips as soon as I get me paycheck, and then I'll do them at least 3x/week again. But my water changes are always about 80%, so that's my penance.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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Lil' Swimz$
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Re: Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
Thanks PP. LilGreen, I've never owned a kit/strip. Never done a test! I'm only 11 with a $5 a week allowance.
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Re: Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
My husband murdered our first GSP by upping the SG to 1.05 that's right. 1.05
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Lil' Swimz$
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That's too bad.
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Re: Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
At 80% WC, you really shouldn't need to be testing. The only tank I test is my reef tank & that's about 1x/month. I can't remember the last time I tested any of my FW tanks. They've been set up forever though.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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LilGreenPuffer
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Re: Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
AWESOME.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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Lil' Swimz$
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Re: Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
Good. Because those good testing test are EXPENSIVE.
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Re: Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
Still ALWAYS need them on hand for cycling new tanks & testing for the 1st year & any time something look off. No way you're getting out of those, Lil S!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Ahh. Ha ha PP! I'll save up for one, but I also need to save up for the fish and for TetraSafeStart. I've got $45 already.
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So where's that syphon? I'd get those teat kits ASAP.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... catid=4454
You can get a syphon from there too. If you register at: http://www.ebates.com & give them my email: luluwonderdog at yahoo dot com, you'll get 6% + a $5 rebate.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... catid=4454
You can get a syphon from there too. If you register at: http://www.ebates.com & give them my email: luluwonderdog at yahoo dot com, you'll get 6% + a $5 rebate.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
I hate to post twice on my own thread, but....
I was gone for the weekend. Not too far away, but still... I fed my F8's a decent meal on Friday evening. Saturday morning, I gave them a few blood worms. I also moved my fiddler crab to their tank because they nevere bothered it before. He was too fast and they were too scared of him. So I get home tonight- after 9:30 p.m. on Sunday- and find shell at the bottom of the F8's tank. It took me a second and then I realized who's shell that was. Well, at least my F8's fed themselves today and I know they like crab. My son will be disappointed, though. Don't put anything alive in the tank you don't want your F8's to eventually eat!
I was gone for the weekend. Not too far away, but still... I fed my F8's a decent meal on Friday evening. Saturday morning, I gave them a few blood worms. I also moved my fiddler crab to their tank because they nevere bothered it before. He was too fast and they were too scared of him. So I get home tonight- after 9:30 p.m. on Sunday- and find shell at the bottom of the F8's tank. It took me a second and then I realized who's shell that was. Well, at least my F8's fed themselves today and I know they like crab. My son will be disappointed, though. Don't put anything alive in the tank you don't want your F8's to eventually eat!
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Re: Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
Are you sure he didn't just molt?
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Re: Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
Pretty sure. I saw one suck down a leg and the top shell that I pulled out was pretty hard, not soft and white like the molt he left a few weeks ago.Pufferpunk wrote:Are you sure he didn't just molt?
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Parents won't drive me an hour to get one. They don't want me to buy offline. *Sigh* Sorry mrgreen. Your thread, not mine. End of discussion.
I never thought my DP's would eat ghost shrimp bigger than them, but they're all gone! All 4 of 'em!
I never thought my DP's would eat ghost shrimp bigger than them, but they're all gone! All 4 of 'em!
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Re: Starting a Hall of Shame Thread
Not just my thread.Lil' Swimz$ wrote:Parents won't drive me an hour to get one. They don't want me to buy offline. *Sigh* Sorry mrgreen. Your thread, not mine. End of discussion.
I never thought my DP's would eat ghost shrimp bigger than them, but they're all gone! All 4 of 'em!
Post away. What won't your parents let you get- a test kit or a syphon? if its a syphon, just do it the old-fashioned way. stir up the rocks with your hand and dump out the water with a big cup into a bucket. Gotta do what ya gotta do. I thought about getting a syphon for my 30 gallon today but its not a necessity for the tank. Faster, yes. Your DP's just need to take one killer bite and YUM! Puffer's eyes are bigger than their stomachs."Puffs puff cuz they're puffs cuz they puff cuz they're puffs. - Nathan age 12