Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
At what temp should I move it?
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
If it goes over 86, back it up. Keep a close eye on it, all day if possible. After that, if it doesn't go too high, you should be okay.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
Thanks LilGreen!
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
Don't forget the 80% water changes every other day. I'm afraid as long as they continue to be stressed by living in a tank that's too small for them, they will continue getting sick.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
I still haven't gotten that dang siphon yet! They don't have one at the place only 10 minutes away so now I have to convince my parents to drive me an little under an hour to get one! I feel aweful for them. 
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
You need a syphon to transfer them to a larger tank?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
Syphon to clean it. It's disquisting. It's got off the charts ammonia, nitrites/ates.
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
You don't need a siphon to change water. While it won't be as effective, you can just dip water out with a clean (clean, clean, clean, RINSED) container, instead of siphoning. If you don't start doing these water changes constantly, and *now,* your fish will die.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
Found among the papers of Mohatma Gandhi
Come and visit http://www.thetriopsforum.com!
I AM A DUDETTE!
NEED NITRIFYING BACTERIA FOR YOUR NEW TANK? PM ME!
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
Go to the local hardware store and pick up some clear vinyl tubing, they sell it by the foot, somewhere around $1 or less. Buy enough to go from a tank to a bucket (around 5 feet). Really don't need a python with this method. I have 3/4 in tubing that I use to change water in my 75 gallon. I bought 40 feet, enough to reach the sewer drain in the basement, I start the syphon and I can drain the 75 gal in about 5 minutes.......Oh, don't get too close to the bottom because this creates one heck of a powerful syphon and will suck out your substrate. I emptied all the sand out of a 50 gallon that way when I needed to change substrate.
Oh, I also bought another 40 feet and now I mix all my salt water in the 2nd floor hallway closet. I can attach the tubing to a pump to change water in the 55 gal on the second floor and I can just syphon it to the 75 gallon brackish on the first floor. Again, the 75 fills in minutes....gotta be careful...wives don't like saltwater on their nice clean floor.....
Oh, I also bought another 40 feet and now I mix all my salt water in the 2nd floor hallway closet. I can attach the tubing to a pump to change water in the 55 gal on the second floor and I can just syphon it to the 75 gallon brackish on the first floor. Again, the 75 fills in minutes....gotta be careful...wives don't like saltwater on their nice clean floor.....
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
Okay, do you need a pump or something or how do that start up?
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
I just dunk a section of the tubing inthe water and then bring it over the side to start the syphon. The logical option is to suck on the tubing until water flows...be careful not to swallow......
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
Really? Mine never starts? I suck on it until its all the way almost in my mouth and then hang it down and it STILL doesn't work. Oh, LilGreen, right now I am doing water changes, with a cup. 50% twice a week.
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
Guys, aren't we talking about a 5g tank??? Just stir up the substrate thoroughly & scoop out 1/2 the water with a large cup. Start doing this every day or your puffers are in dire straights!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
Heh, I didn't realize we were talking 5 gallons.....
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Re: Dwarf puffer has ich. :(
I'm really only focusing this on my 10 gallon, I really need to get that cleaned for my little DP's. I feel bad for them in the 5 gallon. I don't mind doing water changes with a cup on the 5 gallon, super easy.
I don't mind doing water changes with a cup on the 5 gallon, super easy.Ha ha, he he! DAncE whEn yoU're HAPpppy! He he he! DAnce, danCE, DANCe!