mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
another picture showing the severity, I believe I may have inadvertantly caused the issue myself by overfeeding him. I had feed him 2-3 cockles 3 times a week for the last couple of years when it occured to me that he looked a little thin compared to other mbu's so i decided to up his feeding to 3-4 cockles 3 times a week which pleased him no end! until this happened
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
I'm sorry its not just a simple case of it being pushed back in mikweg. I hope you can find a vet that can help that is fairly local to you.
Does he still have a healthy appetite with his current condition.
Does he still have a healthy appetite with his current condition.
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
Hey, there was a post on this with identical pictures a few weeks ago, and I believe that the problem was resolved. Try searching for that. Good luck.
"I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
Found it looks identical.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17559&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... us#p182923
Definitely worth a go with this method mikweg if it worked on this one no reason it cant for you.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17559&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... us#p182923
Definitely worth a go with this method mikweg if it worked on this one no reason it cant for you.
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mikweg
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
yeah had a look but this is deffo not worms - I have found a vet who can sort it out on Monday but I'll have to keep him happy till then. thanks for the help I'll keep you all informed.
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
Oh my, that is a bad prolapse. My one Figure 8 used to get them after a big meal ocassionally, and they just always went back in on their own, but never that bad. His were never that far out, or that red/irritated looking, just a pale pink color.
Wow. I don't care what the vet says, I'd probably try to very gently get it back in there if it doesn't go on its own in a few days. Don't feed in the mean time, even if he does feel like eating.
Personally I wouldn't be very hopeful, but these guys really surprise us quite often.
Wow. I don't care what the vet says, I'd probably try to very gently get it back in there if it doesn't go on its own in a few days. Don't feed in the mean time, even if he does feel like eating.
Personally I wouldn't be very hopeful, but these guys really surprise us quite often.
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
I believe Puffer Queen has recommeneded pushing it back in with a pencil eraser.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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mikweg
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
Well ~I feel utterly miserable now Barry took a definate turn for the worst today not moving or even responding much if I touched him, having failed to find a vet I could reach after having rung literally very one I could think of from the RSPCA to The London Aquarium I decided enough is enough and put him out of his misery.
I spoke to my LFS whom I trust and based on his prognosis put him to sleep with a large overdose of clove oil.
He is now buried in the rockery where I know he'll be undisturbed.
I can't express how gutted I am, he was a member of our family and the only one always guarenteed to great me enthusiastically ever time!
so sad
I spoke to my LFS whom I trust and based on his prognosis put him to sleep with a large overdose of clove oil.
He is now buried in the rockery where I know he'll be undisturbed.
I can't express how gutted I am, he was a member of our family and the only one always guarenteed to great me enthusiastically ever time!
so sad
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
I am soooo sorry, you have my condolences and I wish there was something I could say to make you feel better, but I know you must really be heartbroken. Very sorry for your loss.
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
Poor guy. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry."I will give you a talisman. Whenever you are in doubt, or when the self becomes too much with you, apply the following test. Recall the face of the poorest and the weakest man whom you may have seen, and ask yourself, if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him or her. Will she gain anything by it? Will it restore her to a control over her own life and destiny? In other words, will it lead to freedom for the hungry and spiritually starving millions? Then you will find your doubts and your self melt away."
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
I'm so sorry for your loss... Do you have the heart to keep another one?
Do you have the heart to keep another one?You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
what a fish to loose. i lost cutiepie recently. god i hate this part of owning pets!
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
What happened to Cutiepie?
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Re: mbu with what looks like a prolapsed gut!!!
I'm so sorry. I would have done the same if it had been my fish, it had to be quite painful and uncomfortable, not to mention the risk of bacterial infection.